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Search-Engines-Web.com [PersonRank 10]

Saturday, July 7, 2007
11 years ago6,897 views

webspam.google.com/admin.php?u ...

If you find this referrer in your stats – pay attention to it. It may mean your site is in the Webspam database and is being periodically manually re-reviewed after a preset length.

Apparently there are two types of Google Bans – One that is a ban off the Organic SERPS and One that is a complete ban from any Search.

This may explain why some bans sites will show up when a search is done FOR THE DOMAIN NAME – but not for any organic results

The first type of site ban will NO LONGER come up for any search queries even it was getting rankings previously – it will only come up if you type in the URL as a search term – and sometimes it comes up for a 'related' search

The second type of site ban (Complete Ban) the URL will not show up for the a search of the domain name

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Here is the rest of the info regarding that visit:

freezepage.com/1183788272ZQZTL ...

Domain Name charter.com ? (Commercial)
IP Address 68.115.80.# (CHARTER COMMUNICATIONS)
ISP CHARTER COMMUNICATIONS
Location
Continent : North America
Country : United States (Facts)
State : Minnesota
City : Rochester
Lat/Long : 44.0301, -92.4622 (Map)
Language English (U.S.)
en-us
Operating System Microsoft WinXP
Browser Firefox 2.0
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.4) Gecko/20070515 Firefox/2.0.0.4
Javascript version 1.5
Monitor
Resolution : 1024 x 768
Color Depth : 24 bits
Time of Visit Jul 5 2007 6:31:34 am
Last Page View Jul 5 2007 6:31:34 am
Visit Length 0 seconds
Page Views 1
Referring URL
Visit Entry Page webspam.googl...&length=36 ...
Visit Exit Page webspam.googl...&length=36 ...
Out Click
Time Zone UTC-6:00
Visitor's Time Jul 5 2007 5:31:34 am
Visit Number 110,982

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They probably just check the page quickly to see if the same objections are present – but they do not stay very long.

Also, the WebSpam team appears to be nationwide – not in Google's headquarters (unless they are working from home)

Of course, this is just a guess based on little information – but perhaps it could be built on by others.

Also, it illustrates who half of the visitors to that blog are too afraid to leave a linked url in their usernames when posting

Each ban is verified and given a time period to be reverified

Search-Engines-Web.com [PersonRank 10]

11 years ago #

webspam.google.com/admin.php?
user=mcutts&status=verified&length=364&type=ban

Here is the full URL, it does not show up in the link (look at the status bar)

webspam.google.
com/admin.php?user=mcutts&status=verified&length=364&type=ban

[Line break added to URL to fix layout issues – Tony]

TOMHTML [PersonRank 10]

11 years ago #

Nobody has seen this subdomain before google.com/search?q=%22webspam ...
Good pick

PS:Maybe Matt Cutts' personal internet provider is "Charter communication"?

Martin Porcheron [PersonRank 10]

11 years ago #

It's interesting that it has the file extension .php

See blogoscoped.com/forum/101532.h ...

TOMHTML [PersonRank 10]

11 years ago #

Youtube is in PHP too youtube.com/index.php

Martin Porcheron [PersonRank 10]

11 years ago #

> Youtube is in PHP too youtube.com/index.php

YouTube was an acquisition though, I would have expected Google to develop it's own anti-spam tool, seeing as they developed the search engine.

John Honeck [PersonRank 10]

11 years ago #

I think this may be the explanation.

sebastianx.blogspot.com/2007/0 ...

Tony Ruscoe [PersonRank 10]

11 years ago #

<< Nobody has seen this subdomain before google.com/search?q=%22webspam ...
Good pick >>

I don't believe that this subdomain even exists. I'm sure it was spoofed.

SebastianX [PersonRank 1]

11 years ago #

I'm sure it was spoofed. PrefBar got a neat referrer-spoofer widget recently.

Search-Engines-Web.com [PersonRank 10]

11 years ago #

UPDATE:

Apparently, there is a corporate watchlist in Mountain View.....

corp.google.com:8080/webspam/w ...

Here is an archive of their latest Visit(s) – there will probably be alot more – due being well known in SEO blog circles....

freezepage.com/1184045722BQOVL ...

Now this gives validity to folks who never give links on blogs or forums out of fear of SEO tactics being 'outed' – it also validates the concerns of those who fear revealing their identity in Signature links on forums will backfire if they are using any Gray hat techniques.

But readers of a particular Google Engineer's blog will know the aggressive arguments that have been pushed over the past two years about WHY gray hat is needed sometimes – even to the point of having posts deleted – and yes, there are links in the signature and will continue to be links in the signature.

But sometimes, it is better to fight out in the open than hide – if the Engineers insist on being inflexible – so be it!

Take your SERPs and shove it!

SebastianX [PersonRank 1]

11 years ago #

That's spoofed. If this user agent fetched 3 pages following internal links but all with the same referrer that's kinda fishy. Get your PrefBar and a proxy then try it for yourself.

JohnMu [PersonRank 10]

11 years ago #

I saw a similar referrer with a Ubuntu/Firefox user-agent on one of my test sites about an hour before it was dropped out of the index. It came back after almost exactly 30 days... The IP also came from some place outside of Google's internal network. I never really checked up on it since I assumed it was known :-). It would be strange for them to proxy the checks and still leave the referrer in place, though... but then again, most people don't check the referrers and cloaking is usually either IP or user-agent (or both) based so it probably works like that. I imagine they're going to hide the referrer from now on :-).

Search-Engines-Web.com [PersonRank 10]

11 years ago #

freezepage.com/1184074811EQBQC ...

Another Visit by them! They actually read this forum –

this Googler is attempting to make a response to this post via an Ad-hoc URL!

Look at the URL:
   corp.google.com/webspam/
matt-does-not-visit-your-site-he-just-reads-
his-blog-comments-chill-dude.py

Search-Engines-Web.com [PersonRank 10]

11 years ago #

freezepage.com/1185213956RXLHN ...

Hello Google, nice to see you again -

   really interesting way to communicate – via * * URL messages * * to say that Matt Still does not visit the site

corp.google.com/webspam/matt-still-does-not-visit-your-site-chill-dude.py

These Googlers are a real witty bunch – aren't they?

But what makes them think SearchEnginesWeb is a Dude?!

Search-Engines-Web.com [PersonRank 10]

11 years ago #

The corp webspam team must be international

Here is correspondence from Germany

apparently – they all log into one Intranet and correspond with each other over suspected spam sites.

But since this blog is so-o well read by the Google team – anyone who wishes to contact them or complain, can be fairly certain that any matters they post here will be reviewed by their Engineers

They must be officially restricted on how they are allowed to interact with the public – they have been communicating via temp URLs for the past several weeks

freezepage.com/1185422893TTYCK ...

corp.google.com/webspam/
post-a%20pic-on-matts-blog-to-prove-dude-doesnt-apply.py

Continent : Europe
Country : Germany (Facts)
State/Region : Nordrhein-Westfalen
City : Binsheim

[URL broken to fix layout – Tony]

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