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Colin Colehour [PersonRank 10]

Wednesday, October 31, 2007
7 years ago8,964 views

TechCrunch reveals some details of Google's Social networking project that will possibly be released this week.

<< Details emerged today on Google’s broad social networking ambitions, first reported here in late September, with a follow up earlier this week. The new project, called OpenSocial (URL will go live on Thursday), goes well beyond what we’ve previously reported. It is a set of common APIs that application developers can use to create applications that work on any social networks (called “hosts”) that choose to participate. >>

techcrunch.com/2007/10/30/deta ...

Above comments were made in the forum before this was blogged,

J. McNair [PersonRank 10]

7 years ago #

I happen to agree with a few of the other voices around the web that Google Accounts/AuthSub shouldn't be the only way to authenticate user data.

People should be allowed the choice NOT to use their Google Account or even not to HAVE a Google Account. They should allow people to use at the very least OpenID. If they're feeling REALLY nice, add in Amazon S3 and even Microsoft's Passport.

Mind, I'm a somewhat of a Google cheerleader and believe that for a capitalistic American corporation, they aren't *that* bad. I also know how easy it is to get and use a Google Account. Still, if they value users controlling their data, they should allow multiple security mechanisms as long as said mechanisms are secure and robust and don't lock you in.

My concerns are likely unfounded, though. The OpenSocial "coalition" is much more than Google, now, and may demand alternatives to Google Accounts. Sixapart may already be building OpenID into their implementation and readying it for the "1.0" version of the OpenSocial APIs. Google shouldn't be against this, as they did settle upon Jabber for Google Talk.

Of course, if Google became an OpenID provider...

DPic [PersonRank 10]

7 years ago #

[put at-character here]J. McNair don't assume Google doesn't have plans to adopt OpenID

TOMHTML [PersonRank 10]

7 years ago #

Amit found the first Application for Orkut : Ask Friends (code name Mobius)
orkut.com/Agent.aspx?applicati ... (ENGLISH ONLY)

James Xuan [PersonRank 10]

7 years ago #

^ No work for me

Ionut Alex. Chitu [PersonRank 10]

7 years ago #

<<Amit found the first Application for Orkut>>

It doesn't use OpenSocial, it's built-in.

DPic [PersonRank 10]

7 years ago #

It tells me the page can't be found

DPic [PersonRank 10]

7 years ago #

Oh because you have to enable it from your feeds section

JohnMu [PersonRank 10]

7 years ago #

So, what would you build if you could connect Facebook with MySpace users? Would you implement the OpenSocial API here?

Nate [PersonRank 5]

7 years ago #

Interesting list of partners...Netvibes, Paypal, etc.

DPic [PersonRank 10]

7 years ago #

So when will we actually be able to *use* the apps?

fanboy [PersonRank 1]

7 years ago #

Ning supports OpenSocial now. blog.ning.com/2007/11/andwere_ ...

SQ89 [PersonRank 3]

7 years ago #

I just got access to the Orkut sandbox and got notified by an email. Yay!

DPic [PersonRank 10]

7 years ago #

My slashdot submission was accepted!

DPic [PersonRank 10]

7 years ago #

slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07 ...

J. McNair [PersonRank 10]

7 years ago #

[put at-character here]DPic
Really? Google has always been quiet about alternate identity, authentication and trust mechanisms. If Google fully adopted OpenID across their services, they'd likely be the one of the largest OpenID providers and consumers on the planet.

On the other hand, I've heard it can be susceptible to phishing attacks (I have a link somewheres). Maybe they're waiting for a future revision to the standard...

Art-One [PersonRank 10]

7 years ago #

*** First Hack is a fact.... ***

Techncrunch brings the news of the first opensocial hack.
It appears to be a Plaxo application.

Read more over here:
techcrunch.com/2007/11/02/firs ...

milivella [PersonRank 10]

7 years ago #

> Agree to play by their rules and you get the chance to achieve more effective deployment, while adding to Google’s success as platform. Disagree, and your technology may not be able to get accepted in the market because Google is just too omnipresent.

It's similar to what I wrote here:
blogoscoped.com/forum/113252.h ...
Today there is little space for innovation outside of Google. And real innovation can't have limits, can it?

---

Anyway, one of the main points in the present thread is that some of us are excited by the fact that developers can write an app once and it will work for many different sites, but the rest of us thinks that what should be fixed is that still you have to go to many different sites to see what your friend did on the web. The latter problem was exposed by Brad:
bradfitz.com/social-graph-prob ...
The first steps to solve this problem are FriendFeed, Socialstream, Plaxopulse.

Ok, these two things (i.e. OpenSocial and Socialstream) can surely be developed both, but I ask: which is more important to you?

(I know some of you already answered: jilm, Sam Davyson, GuillaumeB and Alberto seem to prefer Socialstream and similar to OpenSocial)

Now, if you reply "OpenSocial is more important", I ask you: why? what does it give to you as user?

And if you reply "Socialstream is more important", I ask: why, then, OpenSocial cause more buzz and excitement?

milivella

Colin Colehour [PersonRank 10]

7 years ago #

TechCrunch wrote a piece tonight about how an OpenSocial app has already been hacked.

techcrunch.com/2007/11/02/firs ...

Colin Colehour [PersonRank 10]

7 years ago #

Oops sorry for the dupe Art-One.

Dustman [PersonRank 0]

7 years ago #

Heh! What's this?
haroldtherebel.com/2007/11/03/ ...

hebbet [PersonRank 10]

7 years ago #

OpenSocial is very good

Philipp Lenssen [PersonRank 10]

7 years ago #

> TechCrunch wrote a piece tonight
> about how an OpenSocial app has already been hacked.

Wonder when we'll see the first full-blown OpenSocial virus infecting a social network site. Similar to the MySpace friends XSS virus.
blogoscoped.com/archive/2005-1 ...

James Xuan [PersonRank 10]

7 years ago #

I just got Sandbox Access too.

Philipp Lenssen [PersonRank 10]

7 years ago #

I got my sandbox account too. 2 out of 3 gadgets I added returned nothing but error messages. Only the "random cat photos" gadget worked (and random cats are not quite the, quote Google press release, unleashing of "more powerful and pervasive social capabilities for the web"). Why did Google release this when it was clearly not ready for prime time yet? Admittedly, I suppose many of these are 3rd party gadgets and bot by Google (I can't see author information in the directory Orkut Sandbox directory), but still, this is disappointing and there are only 5 apps to chose from in the first place.


blogoscoped.com/files/orkut-mo ...



blogoscoped.com/files/orkut-mo ...



blogoscoped.com/files/orkut-mo ...



I was able to drop in an existing gadget from GamesfortheBrain.com created for iGoogle though (though even here, Google offered me a broken-looking "edit settings" dialog):


blogoscoped.com/files/orkut-mo ...



[ Gadget URL: gamesforthebrain.com/gadget/ga ...]

DPic [PersonRank 10]

7 years ago #

[put at-character here]J. McNair No-- they *definitely* would be the largest OpenID enabled with and provider. And with them using OpenID-- who wouldn't adopt it??? But you are right, there are a few kinks in OpenID that will have to be worked out before Google will adopt it.

Grimmthething [PersonRank 2]

7 years ago #

My comic gadget
grimmthething.com/googmods/com ...
works surprisingly well directly from iGoogle,

but the second I start adding opensocial stuff into it, its all errors.

DPic [PersonRank 10]

7 years ago #

I would love third-party gadgets on blogger. Or at least the ability to add shoutboxes

stefan2904 [PersonRank 10]

7 years ago #

I got mine too today.
i think will play around with it tomorrow.

[OT-Question: Who here is on Steam? (-; Add me (stefan0429) if you like!]

James Xuan [PersonRank 10]

7 years ago #

^^
What's steam?

stefan2904 [PersonRank 10]

7 years ago #

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_(c ...

by

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valve_Co ...

the makers of

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-Lif ...

and

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-Lif ...

;-)

James Xuan [PersonRank 10]

7 years ago #

So, it's not free? Unfortunately I haven't got any money since the f*cking b*astard upstai...I mean my landlord took it all yesterday :(

Ionut Alex. Chitu [PersonRank 10]

7 years ago #

"For security purposes, the Orkut sandbox opensocial calls will only
return information about users who are whitelisted for the sandbox.
This is likely why many of you have been seeing empty information
returned from the fetch VIEWER_FRIENDS calls. "
groups.google.com/group/openso ...

Joshua [PersonRank 0]

7 years ago #

First OpenSocial!
Now Open Handset Alliance / Android Platform!

android.com/

Chck the link out it live.....

GuillaumeB [PersonRank 9]

7 years ago #

Here we are
what did i say: blogoscoped.com/forum/113003-f ...

blog.netvibes.com/?2007/11/06/ ...

[HTML link fixed – Tony]

milivella [PersonRank 10]

7 years ago #

[About the "OpenSocial or Socialstream?" thing] Tim O'Reilly prefers the Socialstream model:
radar.oreilly.com/archives/200 ...

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