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Christian [PersonRank 0]

Friday, April 17, 2009
11 years ago5,625 views

No, but interesting and funny to see is, that in germany the search for the word "here" results in links to flash and acrobat download pages because most pages link to the download sites with the phrase ... can be downloaded "here"... google.de/search?hl=de&q=h ...

Josh [PersonRank 0]

11 years ago #

Maybe that site contains the search words more times, or more prominently than Adobe's own site. weird how it's just some random site and not say, YouTube, or some other Flash-driven site that SE robots end up seeing w/o the plugin.

Yisroel Greenberg [PersonRank 0]

11 years ago #

That's a miss?? It found a page full of Adobe products, including Flash, and that's a miss?? He wanted Flash, he found Flash!

Pat [PersonRank 0]

11 years ago #

I normally 'bypass' a google search altogether for something like this by entering my search query directly into my Firefox address bar. I then, normally, get redirected to the top result from the respective google query. The first result is often the only result I see.

Mikael [PersonRank 1]

11 years ago #

If you do not have Flash, the webpage forwards directly to Adobes site using a "http-equiv=refresh" metatag after two seconds. It is the Adobe site that Google has indexed (as can be seen by the title in Googles result). Probably the Google rank from Adobe has been inherited as well.

Perhaps a good way to increase your site ranking would be to point the refresh tag to a popular site, and set an extremely high refresh time?

Philipp Lenssen [PersonRank 10]

11 years ago #

Mikael, that's interesting. I wonder if they did more before (when Google indexed them) than just that metatag?

Philipp Lenssen [PersonRank 10]

11 years ago #

Google's John Mueller at Friendfeed says there's a Flash-based redirect as well: beta.friendfeed.com/philipp/ba ...

Frank [PersonRank 0]

11 years ago #

Philipp the link you posted doesn't work. "FILE NOT FOUND".

df [PersonRank 1]

11 years ago #

My guess is because that the page have a refresh meta that redirect to macromedia download page.

because no other information is available to googlebot. the mighty ranking algorithm get trick into believing it's a valid "copy" of the original download page, which itself has high ranking.

I am confident that google could resolve this problem timely.

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at first I thought it was due to language preference, after testing with following queries, it doesn't appear so...

google.com/search?hl=fr&q= ...

google.com/search?hl=de&q= ...

google.com/search?hl=zh_tw& ...

Fred [PersonRank 0]

11 years ago #

The page has two redirects in place that act as a rudimentary Flash plugin check. There is a standard meta tag refresh that points to Adobe's download page as well as a redirect in a .swf that is on the index page.

If the visitor doesn't have the Flash plugin, the .swf redirect will never fire and the meta tag refresh will take them to Adobe's Flash player page.

If the visitor does have the Flash plugin, the .swf redirect will fire before the meta tag refresh and will take them to index2.html.

Since the Google indexers don't have the Flash plugin, they get the redirect and think that the page in question has the same content as Adobe's Flash Player Download page. (Note the "Sorry, your platform is not supported." when you do a Google search for "flash player" and get the same page ranked #1, but with different text listed below the link.)

But, that just explains how the page in question is being confused with the Adobe Flash Player Download page. It doesn't explain how the page in question seems to have a Page Rank of 5/10 and is getting ranked higher than the Adobe page that has a Page Rank of 9/10... unless Google is COMPLETELY confusing the two pages and the page in question has an upper hand by having two pages worth of data being considered (index.html as well as the Adobe page), which could give a boost in the amount of Flash-related text/code.

Philipp Lenssen [PersonRank 10]

11 years ago #

> Philipp the link you posted doesn't work.

Perhaps that link only works when you're signed up with the Friendfeed Beta, try this one:
friendfeed.com/e/ba9a6ddd-bc92 ...

fa3ien [PersonRank 0]

11 years ago #

The word "leurre" in the belgian URL means "red herring" in french.

JEShack [PersonRank 10]

11 years ago #

Google's result page is really misleading. Other competitors got it right.
Why so? What's the use of Search Wiki?

The site at leurre.ulb.ac.be is voted down by 16 people.

Gilberto Padilha [PersonRank 0]

11 years ago #

Here's another strange one, search for "lamborghini yatch" on google.com english page and check the first result :-)

wooter [PersonRank 0]

11 years ago #

It seems that google's results have been getting worse for me lately.

Wesley de Souza [PersonRank 1]

11 years ago #

The thing is worse: the title of the page Google thinks is Adobe's is "Document sans titre" (I guess it's Untitled Document in french...), so that's a huge bug, or Google was hacked. Can you imagine?

Philipp Lenssen [PersonRank 10]

11 years ago #

Since posting this the results changed for me, though the issue remains...

Before:


blogoscoped.com/files/get-flas ...



Afer:


blogoscoped.com/files/get-adob ...

George R [PersonRank 10]

11 years ago #

Look at the snippets in the "before" screenshot.
The first result has the phrase "get flash".
The second result has the words "get" and "flash" in different sentences.

I tried a search for the phrase ["get flash"].
google.com/search?as_epq=get+f ...

The first result is "get.adobe.com/flashplayer".
The sixth result is "blogoscoped.com/archive/2009-04-17-n40.html".
The subdomain "leurre" was not in the first 100 results.

George R [PersonRank 10]

11 years ago #

I am now getting a search results page for [get flash] that has "get.adobe.com/flashplayer" listed first and no listing for the subdomain "leurre" in the first 10 results.

This is reminiscent of the results changing during a previous blogoscoped thread. blogoscoped.com/forum/149523.h ...

Is Google manually changing their results? Is Google manually running programs as needed to "automatically" change results? Does Google have a program that automatically makes changes based on what is in blogoscoped?

JHAWK.WS [PersonRank 0]

11 years ago #

Actually, depending on time of day and server load, you may in fact be searching different indexes from different data centers.

The google net is complex and diverse, and it's normal to get slightly different results due to performing the search on different datacenters.

To see it in action, simple ping google.com
do it several times, it'll be the same IP address. Wait a while and try again, you'll resolve to a different IP. That's possibly a different datacenter when that happens.

Normal.

Ray [PersonRank 0]

11 years ago #

If you look at the cached version of the page, it has the source code of the Adobe download page.

W J Miller [PersonRank 0]

11 years ago #

Your Screenshot shows it found it and so did my own test. I do not see any evidence to support your claim.

JEShack [PersonRank 10]

11 years ago #

>Does Google have a program that automatically makes changes based on what is in Blogoscoped?
Hehe, I'm also thinking about that. Since I'm getting the exact result with or without the quotes. Silly Google.
:]

Joey [PersonRank 0]

11 years ago #

Seems they do

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