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Martin Wang [PersonRank 1]

Wednesday, January 25, 2006
18 years ago

Look, Even in Germany or France, Google had to give up, not mention in China. This country is 100% under control of communism. If you know even a little about events taking place in 1989 or some time after 1949. You should have no surprise about google giving up.

Compared with other searching engine, Google has already been very strong, at least, in the USA, a speech-free country, Google did/do very well against Bush administration. The fight is impressive, and shows the courage of Google quite well. As for the decision for the Chinese case, let's just say, it is just communism, what are you gonna do?!

It is not Khmer Rouge or Kim Jong-il, we Chinese should already thank goodness!

Derrick W [PersonRank 1]

18 years ago #

While I fully support Google's services, they should be ashamed of themselves for censoring items in China while refusing to help the war against porn here in America. Better Dead than Red, as we used to say, but not for Google. For them, it seems like Better Red, Blue, Green, and Censored than Dead.

Help our enemies, fight your allies. The Google Way!

Geza Csikasz [PersonRank 1]

18 years ago #

There is no excuse for giving in to ANY government for ANY reason, when it comes to censoring the Internet.

Google has several options. 1) Drop the Chinese market – it is not essential for them. 2) Just refuse. 3) Actively work against Chinese efforts to restrict people from sharing information and knowledge with each other; take a stand. 4) Start a company that focuses on building a wireless infrastructure that the Chinese people can use!

Any of these courses of action would have maintained or increased goodwill for Google.

The sad part is that a party such as Google actually has the time, money and resources to take a stand, but declines. For those in China who fight for freedom of thought and speech, this must be a huge letdown.

As for the fight against pornography, excessive violence, etc, I wouldn't mind a bit if Google decided – as a strategic marketing decision – to exclude that kind of content from their results. If nothing else, it would save a lot of time for all who are looking for "serious" results. At the same time this would be probably involve a ridiculous amount of "grading" of content...

nahil [PersonRank 1]

18 years ago #

why is the Google all of a suddent the bad one here? isnt it good that Google can still operate in China? why are we being so negative? things will change with time, one day the Chinese government may open up and allow Chinese internet users to access google.com....but not now. type in "democracy" into google.cn and i can get 89,800,000 results, where as in the Chinese search engine baidu.cn i can only get 534,000 results. doesnt this show that google.cn is already providing more than what the Chinese search engine can? why is everyone condeming what google has done. why are people trying to force what they believe onto others...do we know what internet users in China think? have they said that they didnt like the censorship? why should we force what we believe is right onto others, dont they have a choice? i think google is right to censor the internet for China, otherwise google would not be able to operate in China, is it then better to have or not to have?

nahil [PersonRank 1]

18 years ago #

Google, whose company motto is "Do No Evil," who is the evil here? the Chinese government? google themselves? why is the government considered as evil? is it because they are a communist party? is it becaus China aint a democratic country? if China is the "evil" here, shouldnt we do our best to reject "evil"? then why dont we get rid of all that is made in the "evil" land and not support this "evil" government? why is China being pushed down and trampled on? have they invaded countries and forced democracy into another country? oh wait...that was the USA. did China drop a nuclear bomb on any country? oh wait...that was the USA. just because China is a communist country and have a different belief system does not mean that they are "evil" cant people accept the differences and leave China alone? should they force democracy onto people when they didnt ask them? and based everything on what they thought was "right"? the answer to that will be NO

Philipp Lenssen [PersonRank 10]

18 years ago #

Nahil, Google is only measured by their own standards here. They are indeed not measured by standards of the Chinese gov't. Google's own motto is not, "Do no evil, unless it's only a little evil and helps a lot of users."

Geza Csikasz [PersonRank 1]

18 years ago #

Thanks for the clarifying reply Philipp! And I am quite sure that people anywhere, anytime, prefer democracy and freedom of thought, speech and religion to any regime.

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