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Alberto [PersonRank 0]

Tuesday, January 23, 2007
13 years ago16,542 views

I am in The Netherlands and I get to Google Germany when going to google.de.

Ionut Alex. Chitu [PersonRank 10]

13 years ago #

Google.de works as expected for me. Here's what I get in the whois:

[Edit: The temporary domain owner in question requested from me that his personally identifiable information be removed. So I did in my article and this comment. -Philipp]

M [PersonRank 1]

13 years ago #

In the U.S. it goes to goneo.de as described.

menneke [PersonRank 1]

13 years ago #

From Greece no problem getting to google.de.

Johannes [PersonRank 1]

13 years ago #

That's funny: I just saw that Goneo page instead of google.de and immediately thought "I have to inform Philipp about this". So I went to your page...

nimrod [PersonRank 0]

13 years ago #

I am in Germany and had the same strange url on my desktop, after 20 minutes was google.de back....!?

bfel [PersonRank 1]

13 years ago #

From Rio de janeiro I get goneo.....

JohnMu [PersonRank 10]

13 years ago #

That would be embarrassing :-). Did Google let their .de-domain expire? I see a new owner at denic.de but the name servers are still pointing to Google. Remember when this happened to microsoft.com?

Christoph [PersonRank 1]

13 years ago #

The denic entry is still favo, but the nameservers point to nsX.google.com – seems that somebody already has taken action...

menneke [PersonRank 1]

13 years ago #

OTOH, all the German parent dns servers point to goneo.de

l.de.net [89.213.253.189] ns1.goneo.de. ns2.goneo.de.
s.de.net [193.159.170.149] ns1.goneo.de. ns2.goneo.de.
z.nic.de [194.246.96.1] ns1.goneo.de. ns2.goneo.de.
c.de.net [208.48.81.43] ns1.goneo.de. ns2.goneo.de.
a.nic.de [193.0.7.3] ns1.goneo.de. ns2.goneo.de.
f.nic.de [81.91.164.5] ns1.goneo.de. ns2.goneo.de.

thochi [PersonRank 1]

13 years ago #

www.xing.com/profile/Mario_Mic ...

Juha-Matti Laurio [PersonRank 10]

13 years ago #

When tested from Finland it goes to Google Deutschland with no problems.

JohnMu [PersonRank 10]

13 years ago #

Would you renew a Google-(or any big company)-domain if you noticed that it was just about to expire?

menneke [PersonRank 1]

13 years ago #

And now google.de redirects to google.com. It gets more interesting by the minute...

JohnMu [PersonRank 10]

13 years ago #

Someone doesn't know how to leverage link-bait or Adsense for search :-)

missi [PersonRank 1]

13 years ago #

Screenshots: entartete-kunst.com/googlehija ...

John Honeck [PersonRank 10]

13 years ago #

Doing a reverse IP look-up at seologs.com/ip-domains.html?do ...

www.google.de has address 82.100.220.170
Found 319 websites with the IP 82.100.220.170

1) 2733.webtest.goneo.de
2) 3190.webtest.goneo.de
3) 3338.webtest.goneo.de
4) 3942.webtest.goneo.de
5) 99rank.de

etc.

mediamind [PersonRank 1]

13 years ago #

hi,
i saw it and have sreenshoots at media-mind.de/seo/google-forum ...

the company you see in the whois make business with expired domains... but i dont belive that this is the reason or that a google guy dont renew the registration. at denic.de (german registry) you dont have to renew a registration as for COM Domains.
others talk about a hacked registry account..

mediamind [PersonRank 1]

13 years ago #

i checked the WHOIS of Google.com and finf this:

Server Name: GOOGLE.COM.SUCKS.FIND.CRACKZ.WITH. SEARCH.GULLI.COM
IP Address: 80.190.192.24
Registrar: KEY-SYSTEMS GMBH
Whois Server: whois.rrpproxy.net
Referral URL: key-systems.net

Server Name: GOOGLE.COM.SPROSIUYANDEKSA...
Registrar: MELBOURNE IT, LTD. D/B/A INTERNET NAMES WORLDWIDE
Whois Server: whois.melbourneit.com
Referral URL: melbourneit.com

Server Name: GOOGLE.COM.SA
Registrar: OMNIS NETWORK, LLC
Whois Server: whois.omnis.com
Referral URL: domains.omnis.com

Server Name: GOOGLE.COM.PLZ.GIVE.A.PR8.TO. AUDIOTRACKER.NET
IP Address: 213.251.184.30
Registrar: OVH
Whois Server: whois.ovh.com
Referral URL: ovh.com

thats clear... any guy hacked a registry account

Haochi [PersonRank 10]

13 years ago #

Something similar happened to Google.cn last July.
googlified.com/2006googlecn-ha ...
DNS Hijacking?

missi [PersonRank 1]

13 years ago #

[put at-character here] mediamind

Thats subdomains

(GOOGLE.COM.SUCKS.FIND.CRACKZ.WITH.SEARCH.) [subdomain](GULLI.COM)[domain]

like midiamind.google.com ;)

octavee [PersonRank 1]

13 years ago #

google.de seems fine from the US now.

Steve H [PersonRank 0]

13 years ago #

In France, I get Google...

Nader [PersonRank 0]

13 years ago #

Domain data
   Domain: google.de
   Latest update: 23.01.2007

[Specifics removed due to DeNIC ToS. -Philipp]

Ionut Alex. Chitu [PersonRank 10]

13 years ago #

this might explain something:
golem.de/0701/50090.html (german)

Tony Ruscoe [PersonRank 10]

13 years ago #

I'm not sure how .de domains work but I know that if you request the transfer of a .com domain that's not locked, it will be transferred automatically if no reply is received from the domain owner within around 2 weeks. Could something like that have happened?

TOMHTML [PersonRank 10]

13 years ago #

No problem from France, so like Haochi, it reminds me the Chinese DNS issue...

FerRory [PersonRank 1]

13 years ago #

No problems from the netherlands.
I get google by the Amsterdam and then goes to Groningen.
So maybe it is a dns problem in other country's then europe.

victorvijay.info [PersonRank 0]

13 years ago #

intrestingly, Microsoft.co.in is also not owned by microsoft .... it is re-directed to www.etechsupport.net ... I read an article posted 6 months back, that microsoft did not approach them for this domain ...

[URL unlinked – Tony]

BUGabundo [PersonRank 7]

13 years ago #

Both whois and url are fine from Portugal

Philipp Lenssen [PersonRank 10]

13 years ago #

(Updated the post, thanks everyone)

Martin [PersonRank 0]

13 years ago #

Besides the technical aspect of why this has happend, the bigger problem is, that during that time, the "new owners" had access to the precious Google cookies!

And not by some page on a subdomain one has to lure users to. This concerns anyone using Google for search during that time.

I hope Google files criminal charges. Judging by the reports, Google made a mistake by not responding. There is no default "no" response by an automated system? Maybe it failed. Still, trying to transfer the Google domains is not something done by accident. It is a malicious intent.

Martin [PersonRank 0]

13 years ago #

BTW, the registrar of google.de / google.com is markmonitor.com. From their homepage:

Your corporate identity is fundamental to conducting business online.

Your name, logos, trademarks, and brands are valuable assets that
drive revenues, establish trust, and protect customer experience.
MarkMonitor is the global leader in creating and protecting corporate
identities on the Internet. We make the Internet safer for businesses
and their customers with end-to-end solutions that address the
growing threats of online fraud, brand abuse, and unauthorized
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I guess we got a free demonstration all right.

TOMHTML [PersonRank 10]

13 years ago #

Thanks a lot for the update Philipp

TOMHTML [PersonRank 10]

13 years ago #

The french newspaper Le Monde ask information to Google Germany.
"The access to the site [google] was blocked from midnight to 2:00 AM, but we solve the problem quickly," said Stefan Keuchel. "The website is now back to Google, we are trying to find the cause of this issue" he added.
Le Monde confirms that the problem came from DeNIC. Le Monde remembers that eBay experimented the same problem in 2004, in that case the problem came from DeNIC too.

7-50,0.html">lemonde.fr/web/depeches/0,14-0 ...

TOMHTML [PersonRank 10]

13 years ago #

Oops, seems there is a bug with the URL, because there is an "[put at-character here]" in the URL.
There is a shortcut : t*i*n*y*u*r*l*.com/2eeb6y
(remove the "*")

me [PersonRank 8]

13 years ago #

not really amazing. my friend lost his .org domain registered in germany too. seems some german registrars don't care...

Martin [PersonRank 0]

13 years ago #

Tom, it is arguable if the problem lies within DENIC.

All domain related processes are automated at the registrars and denic side. The current registrar has to deny a transfer request sent, according to his setup, to his message queue at DENIC (pull) or sent to him by email (push) in a time limit. He gets reminded if he does not answer. After the time limit, the transfer is granted.

This policy was introduced when the end of the .com bubble left many domain owners stranded with dieing registrars who could not process the requests any more or did not care.

The process works well, as long as the registrars don't f*ck up. And markmonitor.com did.

dominik [PersonRank 1]

13 years ago #

i still have problems here to access to google.de .. i have to use the ip-adress of google.de instead

TW [PersonRank 1]

13 years ago #

Philipp, you're too nice to edit their names out – they asked for this by trying to "steal" a domain name that they knew belonged to someone else. They exposed themselves. Protecting them was nice of you, but you shouldn't have.

Jonathan Marks [PersonRank 1]

13 years ago #

At the DLD Conference in Munich on Tuesday Jan 23rd, Marissa Mayer, Google VP of Search Products and User experience was part of a panel. You can see the video at videos.dld-conference.com/ click Tuesday 11 AM. She explained that between 1.00 and 3 AM that morning, the domain for Google had indeed been transfered. They apparently called the guy out of bed and persuaded him that this wasn't the thing to do....;-)

Stark [PersonRank 0]

13 years ago #

That was weird. But everything is back to normal now.

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