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Timo Heuer [PersonRank 2]

Friday, February 9, 2007
15 years ago5,772 views

There are more copies of early Google pages:

Maybe this one is interesting:

I think the source is absolutely trustworthy. Maybe it's a collection of the collections of different people posting their "backups" on Usenet or so...

Tony Ruscoe [PersonRank 10]

15 years ago #

Seems to be a copy of this:

Which is a copy of this:

(Although I don't know where they got the logo from as that seems to be missing.)

Oliver Herold [PersonRank 1]

15 years ago #

Quiet simple, yes – I've seen it ;D

Bob Morton [PersonRank 1]

15 years ago #

The earliest that the wayback machine has for it is this link from 1998..

There is another one from 1998 that looks similar to the one you linked to but with a much cleaner graphic.

Oren Goldschmidt [PersonRank 3]

15 years ago #

I've seen it before elsewhere, I think it might be genuine. Timo is also correct; if we want to find out for sure we should go through usenet (Not that I'm volunteering) and try to find a backup, back in those days people would keep local copies of anything they used a lot to reduce lag, and a lot of that made it to usenet.

Amanuel [PersonRank 0]

15 years ago #

Yes it used to look like that.

Oren Goldschmidt [PersonRank 3]

15 years ago #

Wow. Amanuel wins on merit of brevity!


Roger Browne [PersonRank 10]

15 years ago #

Tony Ruscoe wrote:
> Although I don't know where they got the logo from as
> that seems to be missing

Maybe from here:

Tony Ruscoe [PersonRank 10]

15 years ago #

Sorry, I probably should have said this:

<< Although I don't know *how they know that was the logo* as that seems to be missing... >>

Mike Empuria [PersonRank 1]

15 years ago #

I was having a look in the Sandford University Backrub site and found this: – the paper that Brin and Page wrote submitting Google "a prototype of a large-scale search engine."

I liked this bit "Our immediate goals are to improve search efficiency and to scale to approximately 100 million web pages." They were thinking big even then.

There's also a nice formula for calculating PR and you've got to see the photos at the end

nascent [PersonRank 0]

15 years ago #

[Moved. -Philipp]

Umm, was it around then. Wikipedia, "Founded: Flag of United States Menlo Park, California (September 27, 1998)"

And, the waybackmachine,*/

1998 google,

Suresh S [PersonRank 10]

15 years ago #

They are talking about the docid . i have a program which larry gave to one of his collegue how to convert docid to url on Nov 1998
here is the code

#include <stdio.h>
#include "search.h"

FILE *checksfp = NULL;
int numurls;

unsigned long url2docid(char *purl)
unsigned int hi,lo;
struct UrlChecksum cs;
char *url;
unsigned int i,j,k;
int r;

if (!checksfp) {
checksfp = fopen(CHECKSTOIDSFN,"r");
LOG(("Checksfp %d", checksfp));
fseek(checksfp, 0, SEEK_END);
numurls = ftell(checksfp)/sizeof(struct UrlChecksum);
LOG(("numurls %d", numurls));

/* ignore a leading http:// if present */
if(!strncmp(purl, "http://", 7)) {
url = purl+7;
} else { url = purl; }

hi = checksum(url);
lo = checksum2(url);

i = 0;
j = numurls;

while(i<=j) {
k = (i+j) / 2;
/* printf_stderr("trying i=%d j=%d m=%dn", i,j,k);*/
r = fseek(checksfp, k*sizeof(struct UrlChecksum), SEEK_SET);
if(r!= 0) {
LOG(("Couldn't seek checks"));
return 0;
r = fread(&cs, 1, sizeof(struct UrlChecksum), checksfp);
if(r!= sizeof(struct UrlChecksum)) {
LOG(("Couldn't read checks"));
return 0;
/* LOG(("%u %u %u %u (%u %u %u)n", hi, lo, cs.hi, cs.lo, i, j, k));*/

if(cs.hi == hi) {
if(cs.lo == lo) return cs.docid;
else if(cs.lo < lo) i = k+1;
else j = k-1;
} else {
if(cs.hi > hi) j = k-1;
else i = k+1;
return 0;

int main()
char url[1024];


while (1) {
printf("url> ");
printf("docid: %dn",url2docid(url));

some perl code by them
#! perl -w
use Compress::Zlib;
while(1) {
if ($count %1000==0) {print "$countn";}
read STDIN,$s,4;
while (!($s eq "xb8xd9x01x00")) {
die "$count" unless read STDIN,$f,1;
print STDERR ".";
read STDIN,$s,4;
# print "$lenn";
read STDIN,$build,$len;
($output, $status) = $x->inflate($build) ;

# print $output if $status == Z_OK or $status == Z_STREAM_END ;

#last if $status!= Z_OK ;

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