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First Look at Odeo  (View post)

Liang Wang [PersonRank 1]

Thursday, June 16, 2005
15 years ago

It's looks really cool!!!

where can i get the invitation?

Liang Wang [PersonRank 1]

15 years ago #

Is there anyone out there kind enough to send me one?
webleon at gmail dot com

A. Bennis [PersonRank 0]

15 years ago #

Me tooo,

my gmail address is bennis[put at-character here]......

Thanks Phil!

Jared Hanson [PersonRank 0]

15 years ago #

If you are looking for further info, I've posted a full review and screen shots to my blog, at the following location: ...

Richard Lusk [PersonRank 1]

15 years ago #

C'mon, I want one too!!!!

Please send an invite:

richard lusk at gmail dot you know the rest-thanks

richard sharp [PersonRank 0]

15 years ago #

I'd love an invite if at all possible-thanks-richard[put at-character here]

german toledano [PersonRank 0]

15 years ago #

I would like an invite at gtoledano[put at-character here]
thanks ...

Adam Tinkoff [PersonRank 0]

15 years ago #

Amazing, they pick my podcast as the top feature and even I don't get an invite. It is cool though!

Thanks for the cool pics!

Adam Tinkoff

Michael Arrington [PersonRank 0]

15 years ago #

Any further info on getting an invite? I've posted my thoughts at but I really want to get a first hand look. [PersonRank 0]

15 years ago #

I'd been waiting for my beta-testing invite to Odeo, the new end-end podcasting solution (Listen-Sync-Create), co-founded by Evan Williams, who also set-up Blogger (the platform this blog is run on) before selling it to Google.

SUMMARY : Its a very good start, and should work well for a mainstream Ipod type audience. the product however isn't finished, with the 'Create' functionality (the part I'd been hanging for) not yet available.

LISTEN : Instead of using the Shownotes of popular podcasts, browsing Podcast Alley, Ipodder, Podcast Pickle, Podscope, and Podcasting News, Odeo provides a (PINK) Ajax like, great consumer interface for finding new podcasts, and listening to and subscribing to featured podcasts. No-one has yet nailed The Podcasts Top 40 or Hot 100 (think popular music) and Odeo have taken a stab here (using members subscribed to a podcast as their ratings metric), but with only beta-testers its still too early to see if this feature will take-off. I like Odeo here as members subscribed is better than Podcast Alley's 'votes' – however I'd like a broader industry ratings tool (or scraped ratings algorthym)

Odeo may not have as many podcasts as PodcastAlley or Ipodder but they dont have too few – 2-3 pages per 'tag' (another cool flickr/feedtagger type feature). Focusing on the Highlighting of great new podcasts will also be well appreciated – as this is very hard to do. As mentioned, Podcast Alley is the leading Ratings service for podcasts, but I hope Odeo give them a challenge with more than monthly ratings.

SYNC : Odeo suggest you download a 9 meg application to Sync the music to your IPOD. I did so, but even after clicking on my settings not to automatically download every podcast subscription every time my PC is on, as soon as I booted up the Sync application (a bright pink Odeo star in my Mac menu) it appeared to automatically download the 20 podcasts I had subscribed to. Using equivalent applications like Ipodder and IpodderX, the user is given total control and a full screen application (even if it is a bit techy) on which podcasts you want to 'schedule', 'check', 'download' etc – I hope with Odeo I will be able to do this. (someone at odeo tell me if I have this feature wrong, but it was my experience)

CREATE : At the moment it requires weeks of research in what is required in terms of software (eg Garage Band, Audacity, soon Adam Currys Cast Blaster) to record podcasts (incl Skype calls, mobile Iriver recordings and direct to PC conversations, then the consequent, mixing, editing and conversion into MP3, then conversion to an RSS feed, promoted through your blog and other sources!) and hardware (what microphone to use on PC and iRiver etc) – If Odeo, could help simplify this on the software side (plus eventually a Google adsense type rev share ad program for podcasts), they would really have a winning formula.

CONCLUSION : The business model and simplified consumer experience for podcasting which Odeo is offering is off to a good start, albeit the Podcast creation feature is not yet available. At a basic level, I will use the service as one of my 4-5 major podcast content sources to find new podcasts.

At the moment however, being a slightly more advanced podcast user than their target market, I will probably take the RSS URL of the podcasts I find on Odeo, and place them into the Ipodder client I use, and while I dont love Ipodder, it gives me enough control to use in the short term. Thankfully Odeo allows me to do this. If Odeo, come up with a better Sync feature, or I better understand it and am able to choose what podcast to download when, then I would also switch for this.

Simplifying the creation of a podcast is a big challenge and if you listen to Adam Curry's continual technical problems (and he is the Podfather, no ?) then it will be interesting to compare Cast Blaster beta to that of Odeo 'Create' – Even with different target markets, in terms of podcasting experience, the key problem which needs to be solved for the podcasting creator is having one easy to use piece of software that can be learnt in 5-15 minutes. The final part (pre-promotion and monestisation) of creating a great podcast is something i'm not sure adam curry or odeo can help with this. We can't all be as funny as Keith + the Girl!

While I can add to podcast feeds within odeo, it would also be cool, similar to how Apple Itunes just did an exclusive deal with Sundance to distribute their podcasts exclusively. I think joint ventures between traditional content owners, and podcasting distributors will become more common. There is only so much shit-casting, couple-casting, bath-casting and god-casting we can all take.

And while todays professional podcasting content, as Steve Jobs refers to it, is usually out of date repurposed radio not suited for the web, I want some more exciting podcasts, like what happened when The Osbournes launched on MTV (just please no Anna Nicole Smith or Keven Federline)

Overall, it would also be great to have one major podcasting site (or RSS reader ? :) to go to for all my podcasting needs, as both a consumer of podcasts, and potential creator. My 'podcasting' tags in are getting too big, as are my subscriptions in ipodder and ipodderx, and I'm sick of always looking @ podcastalley/news/pickle etc

If Odeo could get 3 things right – I'd say have the best ratings system around (podcast alley is monthly and flawed methodology), source some exclusive exciting content (partner with Hollywood or artists directly), and give me a podcast creation tool that enables me to turn my blog into a podcasting platform.

So I can annoy people with audio, as well as text

harry pickles [PersonRank 0]

15 years ago #

um, iTunes is going to feature podcasts. Everything else is dead.

Elijah Blue [PersonRank 0]

15 years ago #

Look at this companies interface:

Found it by accident. Doesn't appear to be hooked up yet, but it's pretty interesting.

elijahblue[put at-character here]

Chad Alderson [PersonRank 1]

15 years ago #

I’ve seen several requests for invites to Odeo in this thread. I just logged into my Odeo account (got in early on the beta test) and don't see anything indicating that I can send invites (ala gmail).

Anyway, there are some cool features on the site and one of my favorites is the way they handle tagging information. I've <a href=" ... a video on my blog</a> – I know it's not exactly the same as banging away in real-time, but you might find it useful.

Chad Alderson [PersonRank 1]

15 years ago #

URL got mashed. Here you go: ...

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