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YouTube Obeys Fake Takedown Request From 15 Year Old

Ludwik Trammer [PersonRank 10]

Sunday, April 15, 2007
14 years ago5,685 views

Want a video removed from YouTube? Send along a fake takedown notice pretending to be from the copyright holder. At least, it’s a prank that worked for a 15 year old from Perth, Australia, who sent a signed form to YouTube pretending to be from the Australian Broadcasting Company. The form requested the takedown of hundreds of clips from “The Chaser’s War on Everything”.

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Haochi [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

"15-Year Old Googler" from last year... ...

Michael Crook vs. DMCA ...

I was that show's fan for a while...

Kevin [PersonRank 0]

14 years ago #

I don't know how it works because he is in Australia, but the American law makes quite clear that lying about this is big trouble. You have to swear, under penalty of perjury, that you have a good faith believe your copyright is being violated.

What email address did he use? I wonder if Google would fall for this if I sent it from hiprocker18[put at-character here]

Eytan Buchman [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

I think the main point here is that people forget that Google is just a company. In terms of cost/benefit, they have much more to lose from obeying a fake takedown request (a false positive) than ignoring a potentially real one (what could be a false negative). While I agree that they could put more effort into verification, I completely understand why they would be prone to remove videos.

Haochi [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

From ABC's website...
<<The ABC grants you a licence to download these audio-visual files for your *private, personal, domestic, non-commercial use only*.>> ...

Not sure if that means they are encouraging users to spread the video...

Mysterius [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

[put at-character here]Eytan Buchman: Wait, are you sure you don't mean the other way around? As in, "Google has much more to lose from ignoring a real takedown notice than obeying a false one"? As that seemed to be your point.

I thought this was funny, upon reading it. Though I suppose it's less funny for those that got takedown notices.

Rob S [PersonRank 0]

14 years ago #

Well, if this doesn't show that Google is serious about enforcing the rights of content owners nothing does. Of course, that could have been the intent... but things get so confused if we assume everyone is evil.

Hong Xiaowan [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

Haha, I should do a one fake. Funny.

Eytan Buchman [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

[put at-character here]Mysterius:
Yea, I meant much less to lose. 3 AM comments are no fun.

Philipp Lenssen [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

As far as false positives go... I dunno, Google has something to lose when the Australia Associated Press circulates a story to all its newspapers that makes YouTube look bad... then again they say any news is good news, maybe it even got some kids to check out YouTube for the first time :)

/pd [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

myae this also shows, that google does not have a proper Due dilgence process in play..

They maybe the best of engineer's ..but as a business entity it seems that they are getting pulled and pushed all over .. Their business practices suck!!

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