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Martin [PersonRank 0]

Monday, February 6, 2006
13 years ago

Wow. 55,000 results. The spam in [ site:blitzbox.de inurl:Default.htm] (JS redirects) is peanuts compared to that.

Search Engines Web.com [PersonRank 3]

13 years ago #

//// I expect that Google’s webspam team will need a reinclusion request with details on who created the doorway pages.
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This is the statement that reveals the Strategy of Google (taken from Matt Cutts Blog)

But interestingly enough, just as Google REFUSED to give up Search information to the US Government, THEY EXPECT OTHER WEBSITES TO GIVE UP THEIR PEOPLE --- or else, the threat is IMPLIED that you will NOT be re-included.....

and through this deperate social engineering, they find the SEOs and their other sites to check and ban – (give up the enemy, or else we will retaliate by keeping you off our rankings)

This bizzare Witch Hunt is depraved, and shows Google is in fact Declining. They are helpless to improve their ALGOs, so this is a desperate attempt to accomplish what their Algos Can't – meaning, tweak so as to render such SEO tactics impotent in rankings.

This is utter sickness in every sense of the word, hopefully someone will start a lawsuite, and curb this uncheck power of theirs

Ph0n [PersonRank 0]

13 years ago #

I think that it's unfair to focus only on German websites when you talk about spamdexing because the problem is an international problem : Many big companies employ "Black hat SEOs" because they just do not know that their SEO is doing hacking job for their website.

Just have a look to these french big companies' websites :

aquarelle.com 72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:6 ...
decathlon.fr 72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:O ...
castorama.fr 72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:- ...

etc ...

[Sorry for my poor english]

David [PersonRank 0]

13 years ago #

We should report them all!

Check: google.com/search?q=enterprise ...

Peter [PersonRank 0]

13 years ago #

Mercedes do it too. Take a look at the source code for www.smart.com. They're hiding a ton of spam.

But Ph0n is right, it is definitely not just German websites. I know of alot of big UK companies spamming/cloaking too. The list is pretty big and Google has never done anything about them. Take a look at: www.thomascook.com, www.Boots.com, www.virgincosmetics.com, www.mytravel.com, www.bradford-bingley.co.uk, www.thewhitecompany.co.uk, etc. The list goes on. They're all hiding content. Check Google's cache for any of those homepages, select 'cached text' and you'll see exactly what I mean.

Philipp Lenssen [PersonRank 10]

13 years ago #

I'm happy if French bloggers focus on French spam, Italian bloggers focus on Italian bloggers, etc. – together we can uncover international spam. (I'm German.)

Herr Schwaner [PersonRank 0]

13 years ago #

By the way, Netbooster.de/.com is also "Qualified Google Advertising Professional".

My Name [PersonRank 1]

13 years ago #

Hi, I read the article about the German BMW.de web site, very interessting. But I think that there are more using that way.

Have a look at 72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:p ... You will see there are some input controls and white text. If you open it with a browser (UserAgent not GoogleBot) it will not allow you to see the text, very interessting!!!

DotNetPro is a German magazine for Microsoft .NET developers.

My Name [PersonRank 1]

13 years ago #

Hi, I read the article about the German BMW.de web site, very interessting. But I think that there are more using that way.

Have a look at 72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:p ... You will see there are some input controls and white text. If you open it with a browser (UserAgent not GoogleBot) it will not allow you to see the text, very interessting!!!

Peter Schmidt [PersonRank 1]

13 years ago #

Thanks for including the mdm.de site in your report. But I have to correct you : The doorway-pages do not include real content. They seem to use a program to create the pages – they only put words after another without sense like : " coin gift you always go collectors fast ... etc" So they know very well what they are doing – and keep in mind : It is the worlds largest collectors company!

Frank [PersonRank 0]

13 years ago #

... cool, I still think about your topic with Netbooster and Soquero (BVDW member ;-)) – i found just this morning the same PDF ;-)

Nico [PersonRank 1]

13 years ago #

BMW.de is out of Google... but very "strange" pages are still on the french version BMW.fr...

   bmw.fr/bmw-voitures-automobile ...

Andreas Wagner [PersonRank 1]

13 years ago #

There´s reports of Netbooster having had issues with google and yahoo in france last autumn.

(Please note that I don´t want to judge here at all – I don´t know in detail who´s to be held responsible for what.
Only thing that strikes me is: Shouldn´t an experience like that get your company prepared for the next time and the brows it raises? Having pre-prepared statements at hand instead of sitting and staring while their clients´ names are now being shouted out all over the blogosphere and beyond?)

Anyways, we gave their french delisting a mention at face2blog.de/?p=52 .

Sebastian [PersonRank 0]

13 years ago #

As long as the SEOs who have optimized those sites say DWPs do still work, most of their customers won't rethink decisions considered "technical problems they can't really understand". They trust their consultants. Unfortunately, lots of these site owners have no clue what the SEOs have done, especially when the optimization was a one time raid, so they are definitely not aware of the risks. However, I've just launched a "spam clinic for German Web sites" and got the first order 30 minutes after pinging the usual places, so there is demand.

Roger Balmer [PersonRank 0]

13 years ago #

For the fun of it talking about Netbooster, the guys at SoQuero is nothing else then the former Netbooster Germany team...... Strange, strange, that they work still the same way, like when Sat1 was banned by Google +18 months ago.....

No good work boys....

Nikke Lindqvist [PersonRank 0]

13 years ago #

When I try searching for www .netbooster. de in Google, they call up a result for www.netbooster-deutschland.de instead.
Bigdaddy trick?

Philipp Lenssen [PersonRank 10]

13 years ago #

Nikke, yeah, that domain was registered around the same time they got banned, from what I can tell looking at the WHOIS record. This page seems to serve no other purpose than to trick Google into allowing at least one Netbooster Germany homepage...

Leonard Cohen [PersonRank 0]

13 years ago #

It looks like Quicklinks.sat1.de from Soquero has been blacklisted and removed after all, there was a very bad article about it in a German internet magazine.

My name [PersonRank 1]

13 years ago #

I find it quite stupid to take a client list from an SEO company without checking its date or if the companies are still in their portfolio and then assumuing that these companies listed there will be canditates for exclusion. That is slandering at best and damages the image of those companies.

Philipp Lenssen [PersonRank 10]

13 years ago #

Leonard, which magazine was that?

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