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/pd [PersonRank 10]

Tuesday, May 2, 2006
11 years ago17,403 views

Nice post Lidwik!!

I think the main reason that Gtalk /Chat is still not yet matured is simple..here are the IM stats as on Aug /05..

AOL: 53 million
MSN: 27 million
Yahoo: 22 million
Google: 866,000

j p [PersonRank 1]

11 years ago #

I have been using Jabber since somoetime around 2000, and do not not even use the gtalk client (I use Psi). I think it is just a matter of time before Google adds the abililty for transports since yoiu have to remember that they are developiong thier own XMPP server so that it can work with the Gmail system. The other thing is that they will most likely have to reach agreements of some sort to interact with those other networks since Google carried a fair amount of weight compared to most other smaller servers out there.

dendrite [PersonRank 0]

11 years ago #

I used to use the transport at ursine.ca. It worked succesfully for a couple weeks. Then something happened on their end and all my contacts were spammed with XML errors unbeknownst to me. Furthermore, the online/offline buddy notifcation was very lagged across services.

Jabber transports will work as a solution...but you're trusting a random foreign (in this case czech?) server with a lot of your communication exchanges. I'm holding out for something better.

Elias KAI [PersonRank 10]

11 years ago #

you are right, well done Lidwik.

We have to remember the Lock-In strategy, that where you are, your community, is the ultimate place for you to communicate.

An important number will be how actively those users are ?
How long time are they chatting, subjects, behaviour etcc...

AOL: 53 million
MSN: 27 million
Yahoo: 22 million
Google: 866,000

Keep it up.

Ludwik Trammer [PersonRank 10]

11 years ago #

You have to remember that Google is the part of Jabber network so this number (866,000) tell us only about users on one server, and not the whole network with thousands of servers. For example the second biggest web portal in Poland also has IM that works in the Jabber network, for couple of years now. Google has joined to the existing network, they don't build it from scratch, and that gives them additional user base.

Elias KAI [PersonRank 10]

11 years ago #

Ok,

What about skype vs Parlino vs Gtalk vs Voipstunt ?

Elias KAI [PersonRank 10]

11 years ago #

In My opinion Gtalk has to move Mobile
Free Mobile Phone Calls supported by ads (audio, video,sms)
and than we can talk about a hit.

What do u think ?

Andrew [PersonRank 0]

11 years ago #

imwatch.wordpress.com/2006/04/ ...
Tiny bit old... But still cool.

/pd [PersonRank 10]

11 years ago #

Just a point of clarifications on the number I throw out.

This was from the Neilsen/Netratings for a Q3/05 study on IM market share. So it would be for all encompassing servers..

wariat [PersonRank 0]

11 years ago #

Google: 866,000
+ jabber.org: 189'199 status.jabber.org/
+ chrome.pl: 60'300 chrome.pl/
+ thousends of XMPP/Jabber servers more ...

Khoyot3 [PersonRank 1]

11 years ago #

The MSN trasnport at netlab.cz still doesnt work.. anybody got any luck with it?

Ludwik Trammer [PersonRank 10]

11 years ago #

BTW, Does 866,000 include Google Talk (the application) users or talk.google.com jabber server users? You have to remember that every Gmail user has he's jabber account and uses it through Gmail Chat...

/pd [PersonRank 10]

11 years ago #

Ludwik : not sure.. I just pulled the IM market share stat's and shared.

Andrew [PersonRank 0]

11 years ago #

netlab.cz works.

Ludwik Trammer [PersonRank 10]

11 years ago #

> The MSN trasnport at netlab.cz still doesnt work..
> anybody got any luck with it?

I haven't tried it (don't have MSN account), but what's the problem? Did you remember to add people in USER[put at-character here]msn.netlab.cz format? You may also try ex. jabber.anywise.com

jilm [PersonRank 10]

11 years ago #

Dendrite: You can trust netlab.cz, I´m from Czechia and Netlab is a serious Jabber server. :-)

Aaron [PersonRank 0]

11 years ago #

Related (and old) links:
groups.google.com/group/Google ...
digg.com/software/Connect_Goog ...
bigblueball.com/forums/google- ...
groups.google.com/group/Google ...

TOMHTML [PersonRank 10]

11 years ago #

Google: 866,000 in Aug 2005
>> it was before the lanch of Gmail Chat ;)

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