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Trying to Improve YouTube's Favicon by Applying Subpixel Techniques  (View post)

Phil Harnish [PersonRank 1]

Wednesday, September 16, 2009
14 years ago6,945 views

Of course, on a CRT monitor, purple & yellow does not make white. This link from the post's comments explains:
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/subpixel.php

This subpixel rendering probably works for the most common monitors out there but for some it'll look discolored and strange. Problems also come up when the favicon size increases for any reason.

Shame too. I'm sure the guys at YouTube would gladly take the suggestion if not for the drawbacks.

Ikram Kurdi [PersonRank 0]

14 years ago #

The new one looks much better on my LCD.

Paul [PersonRank 0]

14 years ago #

I think it's pretty obvious that by comparing the 2 expanded versions, that making some simple adjustments to the original one would result in a much clearer favicon.

You don't need sub-pixel rendering, just a little common sense to make it clearer.

Mambo [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

That's pretty clever, gonna look into subpixel rendering now.

KoalaBear [PersonRank 1]

14 years ago #

I never looked at the Youtube favicon that much, but when you look to it, it is a really 'bad' reading icon. The right one is much more clearer (LCD).

I do not have a CRT anymore, too look have its looking there. But for 95% it would be a big improvement. And about stretching the icon, that is a true, but mostly (90% ? or more) its not stretched. That depends on the users browser and setting in there.

imma [PersonRank 3]

14 years ago #

The subpixel one looks *much* clearer to me (though it's using another pixel in width which could have made the b much clearer anyway)

japan [PersonRank 0]

14 years ago #

gdi++ is much better than cleartype

Waldir Pimenta [PersonRank 2]

14 years ago #

I agree with Paul. The purple and yellow don't seem to be making much of a difference, to me at least:

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/8987/youtubems.png

Waldir Pimenta [PersonRank 2]

14 years ago #

(Please follow the link to imageshack on my previous comment, to see the unresized version)

Martin [PersonRank 0]

14 years ago #

I have to agree with Paul and Waldir. Exactly my thought.

Mike Scott [PersonRank 1]

14 years ago #

The purple and yellow help with the anti-aliasing of the text, thatats about it. If you look at your version versus the original, you'll see that you're loses definition around the b's and the u's.

Mike Scott [PersonRank 1]

14 years ago #

Err, yours versus the one with purple and yellow sorry.

James [PersonRank 0]

14 years ago #

I'm seeing a new YouTube icon now, they've got rid of the top-right highlight, sharpened the corners, anti-aliased the black You, and pixel-aligned Tube http://www.youtube.com/favicon.ico

Ionut Alex. Chitu [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

They changed the favicon:
http://youtube-global.blogspot.com/2009/09/user-inspires-favicon-change.html

Philipp Lenssen [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

They didn't go for the yellow "Tube" though, perhaps a good choice.

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