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Ionut Alex. Chitu [PersonRank 10]

Thursday, July 16, 2009
10 years ago35,095 views

Also see this post:
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WebSonic.nl [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

Yes indeed, that was one of the most clearest triforces. But there are a lot more, just a few minutes ago I found a new one.


websonic.nl/googledoodles/imag ...

WebSonic.nl [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

And another one:


websonic.nl/googledoodles/imag ...

Ionut Alex. Chitu [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

More here:
susiesahim.com/illustration.ph ...

Philipp Lenssen [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

Found one on that page:


blogoscoped.com/files/triforce ...

WebSonic.nl [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

Yes I noticed that one to!

WebSonic.nl [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

That one was for Carnaval.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilia ...

fox88 [PersonRank 1]

10 years ago #

this looks like a conspiracy! eheh

yet, it's awkward! :x

Brett Bavar [PersonRank 0]

10 years ago #

I suspect it's just the "signature" of one of Google's artists.

Anonymous? [PersonRank 0]

10 years ago #

I can't help but suspect this is somehow tied to 4chan.

Mrrix32 [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

[put at-character here]Anon
If it was a reference to that, I'd expect it to look like this:

▲▲
Probably someone just likes playing Zelda.

Also: Rules 1 and 2!!

James Xuan [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

Newfags can't...

SkilledPrivateEye [PersonRank 0]

10 years ago #

I think you can make a Link from Susie Sahim to the Triforce if you consider the following (non-conclusive) evidence:

1- Lots of her doodles have a Triforce in them.

2- Her CADIE work (linked from nintendoeverything.com/?p=1961 ...), features a Triforce.

3- Her Twitter pic (twitter.com/BogusRed) shows someone that looks like this guy known as 'Link', who seems to be related to the Triforce somehow (maybe he works at Google? see maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&l ... from the nintendoeverything article linked above).

4- A quote from paperdemon.com/copyright.php seems to imply some involvement of a Susannah Sahim (Susie's sister? hard to know) with Nintendo:
"All PaperDemon site design elements, images, multimedia, etc. are Copyright 1998-2007 Susannah Sahim, all rights reserved unless otherwise specified. Site code is the intellectual property of Susannah Sahim.

Design elements from The Legend of Zelda® belong to Nintendo of America Inc. and were made from my own screen shots and were obtained by legal means."

5- Wait, Link definitely works at Google and seems to be Susie's friend, for he is in her album: w picasaweb.google.com/bogusred/ ...

6- While Link is an awful name to search about, I got some leads that suggest a Japanese man (or descendant) with that (nick?)name (リンク) was somehow involved with Nintendo, maybe a former game developer, which would explain the article linked above.

7- All evidence points to Link being a a descendant of the Hojo, Tominaga or Tame families, as he uses their symbol in his shield:


johnstuart.biz/HOJOCOLORRGT.jp ...



However, we should not discard other theories: someone named "Sierpinski" is also said to have worked on similar imagery, maybe in doodles for the "Triangle Fraternity" (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle ...).

Given the high profile of some Fraternity members, this could explain how the Hojo symbol ended in the one dollar bill:
infendo.com/nintendo-spotting/ ...

James Xuan [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

SkilledPrivateEye = Satoru Iwata

Torley [PersonRank 1]

10 years ago #

Sharp spotting! This is some amazing detective work. I wonder what else is hidden in these Google doodles.

Fabio [PersonRank 9]

10 years ago #

I found more information at Google Discovery:

74.125.93.132/translate_c?hl=e ...

Fabio [PersonRank 9]

10 years ago #

Sorry, the Google's Cadie image:


paperdemon.com/data/artwork/2/ ...

Fabio [PersonRank 9]

10 years ago #

Google Street View Zelda

maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&l ...

AG [PersonRank 0]

10 years ago #

It is not from game. it is from Fractal theory: Sierpinski triangle

Philipp Lenssen [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

SkilledPrivateEye, great work there!

For reference here's Link from above Picasa, and Street View, link, and the Sierpinsky triangle:


blogoscoped.com/files/link-pic ...



blogoscoped.com/files/link-str ...



blogoscoped.com/files/sierpins ...

Philipp Lenssen [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

Susannah Sahim is the one in the costume, I'm hearing...

David Esquivel Gutierrez [PersonRank 0]

10 years ago #

GOTTA CATCH'EM ALL!

spaceghetto.net/sgd/node/6270

we have A LOT work to do!

Elvis [PersonRank 0]

10 years ago #

Interesting article, but Tesla was 10th July, not 9th. It marked the 153rd anniversary of his birth.

Sig [PersonRank 0]

10 years ago #

I fukken' lol'd!

WebSonic.nl [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

[put at-character here]Elvis I've checked and your right!, it is 10th July.

WebSonic.nl [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #


websonic.nl/googledoodles/imag ...

Philipp Lenssen [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

I asked Google about this and they replied, but I can't make much sense of the reply – can you?

Q: "Why is there a triforce icon hidden in some of the Google logo
doodles?"

A: "Thanks for your inquiry. Users can infer any one Link or another in our doodles."

WebSonic.nl [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

Hmm that doesn't make sense, maybe they didn't know what to do with your question? :-)

James Xuan [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

The "Link" is capitalised, it's referring to Legend of Zelda. Google, you are awesome!

Link is the main Character in the Ledgend of Zelda games

James Xuan [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

In other words, they are "saying" that the anyone can decide what they think it represents or "links to" which is an English phrase that probably doesn't translate to other languages well, but they are giving a "clue" by saying "Link", which tells us it -is- a Zelda reference.

Philipp Lenssen [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

Ah, thanks for the explanation. I was reading it only as Zelda-Link, but now I can see the pun.

Thijzo [PersonRank 0]

10 years ago #

Link... Is it a coincidence or is Google business build entirely on "links"...!

WebSonic.nl [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

Ah indeed, I was also reading it otherwise. Thanks James.

WebSonic.nl [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

International Women's Day


websonic.nl/googledoodles/imag ...

James Xuan [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

I can't find them until they are pointed out most of the time :(I want to know if they insert them into doodle4google winners' doodles.

Also, has anyone tried looking in this? :P


google.com/logos/pollock09.gif

James Xuan [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

Someone at Kotaku (Gawker Media) picked up on your post! kotaku.com/5317382/yes-someone ...

WebSonic.nl [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

[put at-character here]James Nice :-)!

I've checked some doodle4google winners but as i expected no triforce in there (or I missed it). The logo (Jackson Pollock) you point out :-) yes, I checked it..... well.... if I find one in there... Anyways I found them using Photoshop otherwise some are easy to mis.

hebbet [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #


google.com/logos/olympics08_di ...



edit:
in small it looked like that a triforce is near the l

WebSonic.nl [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

Found another one:


websonic.nl/googledoodles/imag ...

tootatonneddy [PersonRank 0]

10 years ago #

I advise to you.

hebbet [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

Susie removed the Triforce from her site:
susiesahim.com/illustration.ph ...

WebSonic.nl [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

Why did she do that. Thanks for noticing!.

James Xuan [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

*eerie doctor who music*

Tony Ruscoe [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

I reckon it's been removed because the artists probably aren't supposed to add their signature to any of their logos, presumably because the copyright belongs to Google rather than the artist. I bet Susie thought she could get away with adding her mark to each one in this way until she got busted.

TOMHTML [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

They remove triforces because Google's private jokes are no longer private...

WebSonic.nl [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

I've checked all the logo's and they are all removed.

Collin1000 [PersonRank 0]

10 years ago #

WTF google way to ruin all the fun!

ahab [PersonRank 5]

10 years ago #

"I reckon it's been removed because the artists probably aren't supposed to add their signature to any of their logos, presumably because the copyright belongs to Google rather than the artist. I bet Susie thought she could get away with adding her mark to each one in this way until she got busted."

I'm not a lawyer but I do have the feeling Google infringed on the artist's rights by altering the images. The images were accepted by Google as created by the artist and the artist has every right – to create images which contain an onubtrusive sign by which the artist indicates she made this ('Susan Sahim facit'). By removing the sign Google shows evil intent, in essence stealing the work (not the rights to use the work, Google may own these) from the artist and modifying it to anonymize it. It would be like painting over the signature of a painting by Vincent van Gogh just because the owner wants to show (s)he owns the painting.

Ionut Alex. Chitu [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

[put at-character here]ahab:

Probably the artist was the one who replaced the original doodles with the ones that don't include triforces. She even replaced them in her site.

ahab [PersonRank 5]

10 years ago #

[put at-character here]Ionut Alex. Chitu
If the artist did remove the unobtrusive micro-logo this seems to me an textbook example of an act in a state of duress. I would like to be convinced otherwise but I think the artist will even feel restricted to comment on it.

I feel that the logo was a mark of the artist she should be allowed to put in her work, like any artist should be allowed to do so. One may argue that such a mark should not interfere with the image she was contracted to make, and the mere fact it took so long to spot it proves to me the mark was as intended: just a sign to distinguish the work as her work, and well hidden within.
  

Philipp Lenssen [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

Ahab, what if Google had a part in the contract job which said "artist may not put any sign or logo into any doodle."? Of course, this is all totally hypothetical, we don't even know what happened to begin with...

Jérôme Flipo [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

It's time to re-read mattcutts.com/blog/taking-goog ... again

RandomPasserby [PersonRank 0]

10 years ago #

Perhaps you're all wrong and she just doesn't want the attention? Until now shes been "that person who draws some of those GoogleDoodles". Now she's suddenly "Susie Sahim, Zelda Enthusiast, Suspected Sierpinski fan, and Artist for Google." Perhaps she just enjoyed being "That GoogleDoodle artist"?

alex [PersonRank 0]

10 years ago #

another one in the middle of the first 'O' here:


google.com/logos/us_doodle4goo ...

Philipp Lenssen [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

Here are more art pieces by Susie by the way: bogusred.net/myart


bogusred.net/images/artwork/tw ...



Susie says:
<<I'm currently a web illustrator and web designer for Google, Inc creating everything from icons to web pages to illustrations ... My primary interest right now is web development. I'm into Anime and other types of animation. My favorite Anime is Dragonball Z.>>

On her other site, on the subject of designing the emoticons for Gmail, she writes:
<<While working at Google, I collaborated with my fellow designer, Ryan Germick, to create a consistant set of emoticons for Gmail. The project was initially going to be for the Japan market as a lot of users there tend to use "emoji" on their phones and in their email. We ended up making them available globally, much to the delight of many users.

Since we were getting into the emoticon game rather late as compared to other companies, we wanted to take a different approach. We designed these with a strict palette of Google colors, done in pixel by pixel style. Most of the emoticons on the first two rows, plus the crab, are my work, while the second row, plus the monkey and robot are the work of Ryan Germick.>>


susiesahim.com/images/icons/go ...

JK [PersonRank 1]

10 years ago #

I just hope she didn't get sued by her own company for doing it.
Cause she's very good at designing doodles, and she deserves cuddling.

ahab [PersonRank 5]

10 years ago #

"Ahab, what if Google had a part in the contract job which said "artist may not put any sign or logo into any doodle."? Of course, this is all totally hypothetical, we don't even know what happened to begin with..."

[put at-character here]Philipp.Lenssen
No a contract job should not disallow the artist to mark his or her work in an unobtrusive way like Susan Sahim did – often such a mark is even required e.g. when an artist is creating a pastiche in the style of another artist. The mark then tells the observer, that even though the style is of another artist the work has actually made by the artist applying the mark.

Note only as the result of like those on this website the mark of Susie Sahim became a news item. If Google put pressure on her to remove these marks the same people that put her in the spotlight should stand for her right to mark her work as an artist.

Philipp, you occasionally write a story. Now as an artist you may put something in your stories e.g. the name of a main character that acts as a mark, as a 'Phillipp Lenssen facit'. You do so e.g. so by using names of friends and close relatives and even do so while being contracted to write a story. The stories you write are fully accepted and published by your contractor, but after some time a blogger finds out what ties all your stories, i.e. the names you used. You contractor now asks you to replace all those names in the stories you wrote for them. How would that make you feel? Do you think such a demand is fair? Note the stories were accepted as you had originally written it...

GMAN [PersonRank 1]

10 years ago #


google.com/logos/moonlanding09 ...



Hard to see due to the angle, but it's on the spacecraft.

Philipp Lenssen [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

Here's another answer from Google, and again it's a bit of a puzzle:

Q: "Why did you remove the triforce in the logo doodles (like the Tesla one)?"

A: "We always said the Link was in the eye of the beholder, and it remains so."

James Xuan [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

Haha, what a cute answer!

eddie [PersonRank 0]

10 years ago #

get it ok

tralala [PersonRank 0]

10 years ago #

Why the triforce does not appear on the Earth Day 2008 logo on the official site?

google.com/holidaylogos.html

Direct link to the logo :


google.com/logos/earthday08.gi ...

WebSonic.nl [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

Google Removes Triforce From Logos
blogoscoped.com/archive/2009-0 ...

Troy [PersonRank 0]

10 years ago #

The triforces are back! At least some of them. Check out google's holiday logo page again. Thanksgiving, Halloween, but not The Olympics or Earth Day.

Troy [PersonRank 0]

10 years ago #

Just checked with a colleague and they are gone once more :(

Brad1 [PersonRank 0]

10 years ago #

Its clearly just a signature just relax

George R [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

There are some sites that keep copies of the Google doodles.
Google may have made it easier to find doodles with a triforce.

Someone could compare each of those originals to the current versions from Google. If the versions differ the original might be a good candidate to examine for a triforce.

WebSonic.nl [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

I did that :-) I only looked at the copies I have. I think you don't have to look further then april 2008. Before that I believe there where no triforces en there won't be any probably in the future. But it's a nice story.

Tandil Ajedrez [PersonRank 0]

10 years ago #

is stranger...but i think that this is a maniobre of marketing for...say wow...google use triforce logotype...

Google say any officially?

[signature removed]

WebSonic.nl [PersonRank 10]

10 years ago #

Google responded on the e-mail from Philipp,

[Up] blogoscoped.com/forum/157553.h ...
[Up] blogoscoped.com/forum/157553.h ...

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