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DPic [PersonRank 10]

Sunday, February 3, 2008
16 years ago7,443 views

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/02/yahoo-and-future-of-internet.html

Sam Davyson [PersonRank 10]

16 years ago #

"hostile bid" yikes!

Mambo [PersonRank 10]

16 years ago #

Fight, fight, fight!

I'm loving this.

I guess that confirms that Google ain't gonna make a counter bid...

/pd [PersonRank 10]

16 years ago #

Yahoo-Microsoft Deal Will Be a Disaster-

   * Google wants to use the Internet to build a huge business (and, in the process, kill Microsoft)
   * Microsoft wants to use the Internet to protect its already huge Windows and Office businesses.

http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/02/why-the-microsoft-deal-will-be-a-disaster-for-yahoo.html

/pd [PersonRank 10]

16 years ago #

while at it.. those who really love stat's andn figures . here's MSFT's stat's for 2007 – growth trajectory ..

so for "Online Services (MSN/Live): $863M, up 38%."- a $44.6B infusion does it make sense ??

/pd [PersonRank 10]

16 years ago #

oppys heres the linky

http://dondodge.typepad.com/the_next_big_thing/2008/01/microsoft-reven.html

Mrrix32 [PersonRank 10]

16 years ago #

Google defiantly doesn't like M$FT or at least David Drummond doesn't :p
"Inappropriate and illegal influence over the Internet that it did with the PC"

M$FT bashing is fun, but this post was a bit strong even for me!

DPic [PersonRank 10]

16 years ago #

i LOVED it :)

beussery [PersonRank 10]

16 years ago #

WOW... now in Spanish! (don't get many of those)

http://googleamericalatinablog.blogspot.com/2008/02/yahoo-y-el-futuro-de-internet.html

Haochi [PersonRank 10]

16 years ago #

I never knew that Google has a Latin America blog, and its been around since two years ago.

Haochi [PersonRank 10]

16 years ago #

They went a step further, making it a press release: http://www.google.com/press/annc/20080203_yahoo-and-future-of-internet.html

"[I]nappropriate and illegal influence over the Internet that *it did with the PC*" – Internet flame war!

/pd [PersonRank 10]

16 years ago #

YHOO is supposed to crafting out another press release. Stay tuned!!!

/pd [PersonRank 10]

16 years ago #

just released = Statement from Brad Smith, General Counsel, Microsoft

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/feb08/02-03Statement.mspx?rss_fdn=Press%20Releases

/pd [PersonRank 10]

16 years ago #

"Today, Google is the dominant search engine and advertising company on the Web. Google has amassed about 75 percent of paid search revenues worldwide and its share continues to grow. According to published reports, Google currently has more than 65 percent search query share in the U.S. and more than 85 percent in Europe. Microsoft and Yahoo! on the other hand have roughly 30 percent combined in the U.S. and approximately 10 percent combined in Europe."

interest way General Counsel MSFT is rebutting David Drummond General Counsel, Google :)-

So google has worked to get that market space and MSFT at time debunked the internet as a platform..

This is going to be a great war of words.. still waiting for "new" YHOO Statement!!

Rohit Srivastwa [PersonRank 10]

16 years ago #

On the lighter side :D
http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080203

Roger Browne [PersonRank 10]

16 years ago #

From Brad Smith's response:

> Microsoft is committed to openness ... on the Internet

Is there any public place where Microsoft has actually made that commitment?

Above 16 comments were made in the forum before this was blogged,

Schultzter [PersonRank 1]

16 years ago #

I've said it already (http://blog.schultzter.ca/2008/02/microsoft-bids-446-billion-for-yahoo.html) but it's worth mentioning again – Microsoft can throw all kinds of cash into a ad-price war that I think Google could ill-afford. Google's response would be to cut costs, i.e.: cut those 20% projects we all love. So not only do I expect no openness or innovation from Microsoft, I'm afraid a successful takeover would lead to less innovation (and probably less openness as they look for more revenue sources) from Google.

Sven Hecht [PersonRank 0]

16 years ago #

"Where does Google innovate when buying companies like YouTube, by the way, instead of advancing their own services in the sector?"

Well You Tube wouldn't exist any longer if Google wouldn't have bought it back then. Can you imagine the money they spend each month for copyright infringements? So yeah there was no real innovation there but on the other hand one could say that in up keeping a instrument of freedom like youtube and while doing so, opening the opportunity for others to follow the lead, they definitely went forward.

Wilson Alva [PersonRank 0]

16 years ago #

Algorithm of Page Rank already is discontinued.

Many of the services of Google also need urgent update, is why Google prefers to buy to other companies of Internet.

That small finder that began many years ago very good, because only era of text, very fast and efficient, that antigüo AltaVista moved my, nowadays became a Giant.

But that has happened with the progress of his so promoted PageRank? By the sight it has not evolved in the same way, as much money and they have not managed to optimize it.

In summary the PageRank de Google or PR simply is a numerical value that it represents the importance that a page Web has in Internet, this value is obtained through the bonds that make other pages Web to your site. (it is a summary of the great roll of his operation) the PR has been that has not evolved as it would wish the user it, many webmasters astute position their Web in the first results search of Google and when we make a search as simple as the task of your primary son of the first results that we obtain is companies doing publicity to their products/services and nor to speak of the swindles that abound by Internet.

What happened with the quality of content? , What happened with the Google that invented an algorithm to benefit the searches from the users? Simply it turned towards the money of the publicity and grew like great company forgetting its roots.

As much it forgot its past that now cannot produce some own project, I buy to YouTube because GoogleVideos did not do competition to him.

Purchase technology of other projects Web because although it is certain that it sees future in them, same Google does not have it developed.

It must have given Google account of its own weakness that now has a Laboratory as they call to him for own projects. But and what has of their essence? To as much to arrived the weakness from the PageRank that now Google penalizes to the sites of high PR that sells links, or the case of the page of a well-known Alemana company that was penalized by unsuitable practices of positioning Web. Acting as Goliat is giving bad reputation him to Google.

To many webmasters is to them beneficial to work with Adsense, but victims of a repression feel, to the being directed by norms imposed by the greatest finder of history.

Now we asked ourselves, Who is making its work bad? Webmasters or the PageRank de Google? Although it is certain that webmasters are many bad, also are many more if they are good, that they include/understand that to give content of quality to the users it is more important that to fill to its pages Web of words that position them in the finders.

What is failing in the PageRank? As lack would claim to my grandmother… him to it to be more human, he is incredible that the heart of the finder, does not have the greater budget of investigation and development.

Hay Competition at this moment? Lamentably next as Yahoo and MSN do not approach which the user wishes and for that reason the Monopoly of Google almost is guaranteed.

Inevitably the users little by little could emigrate to another finder, as flock of doves, if this were more cash in the searches, but at the moment Google does not have competition, although personally I have seen some other finders with very interesting characteristics.

They already say: It does not have bad lasts one hundred years, nor body that resists it and in Internet the years are months…

Mambo [PersonRank 10]

16 years ago #

Dude, get a blog! lol

Seriously though, I don't see anything wrong with the way Google ranks sites...

Zak [PersonRank 1]

16 years ago #

"Well You Tube wouldn't exist any longer if Google wouldn't have bought it back then. Can you imagine the money they spend each month for copyright infringements?"

That's beside the point. If the YouTube model was so fantastic and innovative to begin with, Google should have done it themselves, first, with Google Video. And paid their own copyright infringement lawsuit fees. They didn't have to buy YouTube in order to fight those battles. The original point remains.

Zak [PersonRank 1]

16 years ago #

"Inevitably the users little by little could emigrate to another finder, as flock of doves, if this were more cash in the searches, but at the moment Google does not have competition, although personally I have seen some other finders with very interesting characteristics."

It's like Vogon poetry :-)

Sorry, that was not meant as a dig. You have good points.

Tony Ruscoe [PersonRank 10]

16 years ago #

Scoble reckons we're missing something:

<< Now, we can argue about whether this deal is good or not, or whether it’ll work out for Microsoft or not, but people, don’t take your eye off of what Google is really up to here. Google is having fun by causing Microsoft to react, not to mention that if its little note is taken seriously this deal will be slowed down by six months or more while government regulators look it over. Even in the best of situations it’s going to take a year for these two huge companies to integrate and figure out how to work with each other. So, every month that this gets delayed is gold in Google’s pockets. >>

Read why exactly he thinks that here:

http://scobleizer.com/2008/02/04/what-you-all-are-missing-about-google/

Mambo [PersonRank 10]

16 years ago #

^^ Very good point.

Deweedis [PersonRank 0]

16 years ago #

dave at passingnotes has thankfully translated google's official statement into plain english:

http://elfurl.com/xtay0
  
or

http://www.passingnotes.com/archives/2008/02/03/dr-microhoo-or-how-i-stopped-worrying-and-learned-to-love-the-bomb/

Colin Colehour [PersonRank 10]

16 years ago #

I worry about Yahoo services that I use and love like Flickr. If Microsoft owned Yahoo! would I lose Mac support for Flickr, Yahoo! Messenger or Widgets?

Brinke Guthrie [PersonRank 10]

16 years ago #

Wanna see Jerry Yang's 'confidential' memo to the SEC?
Sure you do!
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1011006/000089161808000067/f37675exv99w1.htm

/pd [PersonRank 10]

16 years ago #

well however put that on the sec.gov site is toast.!!

if your trim the url, you will see that the content is placed in a dir which is supposed to be off limit's!!

Brinke Guthrie [PersonRank 10]

16 years ago #

see here for more:
http://valleywag.com/352449/investigation-reveals-jerry-yang-leaked-confidential-yahoo-memo

mavrev.com's Matt [PersonRank 0]

16 years ago #

I think with Google they feel that they should innovate, but then if their attempt fails to buy someone so they don't lose out on the market... Still not totally true to what their statement says.

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