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James Xuan [PersonRank 10]

Tuesday, August 11, 2009
14 years ago5,611 views

http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2009/08/help-test-some-next-generation.html

<<For the last several months, a large team of Googlers has been working on a secret project: a next-generation architecture for Google's web search. It's the first step in a process that will let us push the envelope on size, indexing speed, accuracy, comprehensiveness and other dimensions. The new infrastructure sits "under the hood" of Google's search engine, which means that most users won't notice a difference in search results. But web developers and power searchers might notice a few differences, so we're opening up a web developer preview to collect feedback.>>

<<Here's how to give us feedback: Do a search at http://www2.sandbox.google.com/ and look on the search results page for a link at the bottom of the page that says "Dissatisfied? Help us improve." Click on that link, type your feedback in the text box and then include the word caffeine somewhere in the text box. Thanks in advance for your feedback! >>

Zim [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

VERY interesting!

I've just read it at Mashable:
http://mashable.com/2009/08/10/google-new-version/

DPic [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

Sound like we won't see a big different but it'll make life a lot easier on their end. more scalability and more awesomeness?

Above 3 comments were made in the forum before this was blogged,

Zoran [PersonRank 3]

14 years ago #

I have noticed that domains are very strong again... that shops and other guys that put allot of money into paid links still rank and spam is all over long tail like usually scrappers are ranking better then legit sources of information... everything seems pretty 'normal'

Ionut Alex. Chitu [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

The results look really bad:
http://www2.sandbox.google.com/search?hl=en&q=google+blog&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g10

http://www.networkmirror.com/Rt8riGGXcRBlYnha/feedproxy.google.com/blogspot/MKuf is at #7
http://www.etesab.com/browse.ir?u=Oi8vZmVlZHMuZmVlZGJ1cm5lci5jb20vYmxvZ3Nwb3QvTUt1Zg%3D%3D&b=13 is at #9

There are a lot of problems with proxies and redirects

A search for [facebook] http://www2.sandbox.google.com/search?hl=en&q=facebook&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g-p3g7 shows some irrelevant events in French, Polish and other languages.

TOMHTML [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

"Michael Schumacher"
=> his official website is #2 on Google.com, #4 on Sandbox.google.com
strange.

anyway, I don't see odd differences elsewhere.

Juha-Matti Laurio [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

Ijist tried this and they are using capthhas

Philipp Lenssen [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

I was wondering what was supposed to be different with Caffeine, considering Matt Cutts at his blog suggests that there might not be big differences in ranking. Here's Matt's answer.

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Q: Could you give us one specific example of a crucial change between non-caffeine and caffeine results?
From your post's comments I understand it's not really about ranking, so what kind of crucial change might we be looking for here if not that?

Matt Cutts: I believe we've engineered it so that ideally there shouldn't be many/any visible crucial changes. Part of the reason to collect feedback was to check on how we did, and so far most of the differences are small. That means the engineering team actually did their job pretty well.

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WebSonic.nl [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

Maybe nice to make a comparison tool with the new and the current version next to eachother, or a comparison with Bing / Yahoo.

Google Sandbox: site:twitter.com 126,000,000 results
Google.com site:twitter.com 123,000,000 results

Google Sandbox: Mercedes – First result is mbusa.com, on Google.com mbusa.com comes fifth, www3.mercedes-benz.com/international_home/en/ is first.

Michael Schumacher is also fourth on sandbox.google.com here. But on Google.com it's www.michael-schumacher.de with the "-" and on sandbox.google.com it's www.michaelschumacher.de

Sandbox: site:wikipedia.org – 53,100,000, Google.com: 38,300,000.

Searching for Google Street View some sites are on a different position. Same for Windows 7.

Without the ads the results look clean :-). By the way, I noticed a 'remove' link behind some Google Suggest links. Don't know if this is new?

WebSonic.nl [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

Sandbox: Facebook: 1,640,000,000 results
Google.com: 158,000,000 results

Juha-Matti Laurio [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

Sorry I made a lot of typos with this stupid keypad of Nokia phone... captchas!!

WebSonic.nl [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

When searching for Search, Bing is on top in the results, Google comes on the fifth place. When doing this on sandbox.google.com Live Search comes first.

Via: http://www.thewindowsclub.com/search-for-search-on-google

que [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

It sounds like this is an infrastructure change only that will allow them to complete their indexes faster therefore getting more updated information to compile for more comprehensive ranking/results. So, the majority of results/ranking won't likely change but they want to have people provide feedback to ensure this is the case and point out where it is not. I've noticed a few searches where the results were somewhat similar, but worse overall.

James Xuan [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

Real Time Google

Olaf Lederer [PersonRank 1]

14 years ago #

I see very different results:

a few older sites (2 years and older) are not listed yet and newer site is already listed :)

But the idea is really good and helpful.

WebSonic.nl [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

Twitter Matt Cutts: "We're taking down the Caffeine sandbox until late Thursday afternoon-ish. Upgrades in datacenter. Don't worry, it'll be back."

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