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Splasho [PersonRank 10]

Tuesday, February 28, 2006
14 years ago

Direct link: news.google.com/news?output=xh ...

Its brilliant in that it compresses the news articles for you, will use on my PDA Phone which costs a ridiculous amount per KB

Philipp Lenssen [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

I wonder if they asked participating sites for permission to republish full content? (They didn't ask me, and consequently this blog is missing on Mobile News – even though it's available on the web News.)

Ionut Alex. Chitu [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

They don't republish the content, they optimize it for online view, the same way Google Mobile Search does with search results. So they shouldn't ask for permission.

Ionut Alex. Chitu [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

They use only news providers that have special versions for mobiles, like this one cbc.ca/mobile/

Philipp Lenssen [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

Actually they do republish it, even when it's intended to optimize for online view. This form of "proxy" republication might be protected by US copyright laws (they also hide it from search engines via their robots.txt), but I am still wondering why e.g. this blog doesn't seem to appear as source.

I've added an iframe previewing the news functionality to the article (also a form of republication, even though technically I'm not copying the content & images on my own server as Google does with e.g. google.com/gwt/n?u=http%3A%2F% ...

Philipp Lenssen [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

> They use only news providers that have special
> versions for mobiles

Ah, OK. Their FAQ says, "Google News only displays sources designed specifically for viewing on mobile devices."
mobile.google.com/news/faq.htm ...

(In a way, they're wrong – e.g. this blog uses no author stylesheet for mobile media, so the user stylesheet should be activated... which can yield perfectly fine results.)

Splasho [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

They only put some articles through their proxy, eg on news.google.com/news?output=xh ...

wbap.com/wap/listingsentry.asp ... isn't but

google.com/gwt/n?client=news&a ... is

It seems based on how small they were already (the first is just text)

Stephen [PersonRank 0]

14 years ago #

The original entry linked "Where's Waldo?" to an ebaumsworld(ebaumsworldsucks.com and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBaum%27 ... for more info) page, so I emailed them and now the link has been changed and it goes to Wikipedia.

I feel like I made a difference.

Ionut Alex. Chitu [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

>>Actually they do republish it, even when it's intended to optimize for online view.

No, they don't republish it. The web page is just an input for their web application. What you see is just an output. That doesn't mean they store it on their servers (they could do that just for making it load faster).

Your blog could also be a part of Google Mobile News:

google.com/gwt/n?client=news&a ...

Michael Schaap [PersonRank 3]

14 years ago #

Note that this only seems to work for Google News US (as usual, without any mention...)
Even adding the usual parameters (e.g. news.google.com/news?output=xh ...) doesn't make a difference.

:-(

   – Michael

Philipp Lenssen [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

> The web page
> is just an input for their web application. What you see
> is just an output. That doesn't mean they store it on
> their servers (they could do that just for making it load faster).

Yes, they do store it on their server. Giving someone the chance to access someone else's content under a Google URL means they do. I can at this time access ...
google.com/gwt/i?i=032988E31_E ...
... which is a republished copy of the image from my blog on Google's server.

What you're probably getting at is that they may not *permanently* store the content. I don't know about that.

Corsin Camichel [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

Are you directing to phising?

/pd [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

<snip>>

"The web page is just an input for their web application. What you see is just an output. That doesn't mean they store it on their servers (they could do that just for making it load faster).

<end snip>>

Yes, this is correct and it is stored in their servers.. When I did the advance new search, I got Phillips pages from dated Feb 20th by (date) and by relevance it was Feb14th.. I think the post on Usiblity2.0 sins..

so its stored and yes, its the inputs and the outputs are being rendered into a xhmtl format for mds4.0 typ browsers.

/pd [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

This is really wiered. I"ll need to take pictures of my blackberry and send to you.

This posting gets displayed in 3 pages. However when I hit the 'next page' it displayed some other stories head lines and then at the bottom was the 2nd page of the mobile page.

This txt is entered on mobile device :)-

Philipp Lenssen [PersonRank 10]

14 years ago #

As an update to the post, I create a Google module out of this:
googlemodules.com/module/465/

This thread is locked as it's old... but you can create a new thread in the forum. 

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