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Mathias Schindler [PersonRank 10]

Wednesday, September 6, 2006
17 years ago6,969 views

The history of Wikipedia has to be rewritten:

http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=Wikipedia&sa=N&sugg=d&as_hdate=1989

Roger Browne [PersonRank 10]

17 years ago #

Mathias: Great glitch you've found!

There's an interesting post from Znork at the SlashDot discussion:

> The articles may have a price for the first user, but as
> copyright has lapsed on them since long, either google
> or wikipedia or someone else can easily create a
> 'republish' plugin automatically posting such content
> to a collaborative site.
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=195884&cid=16051246

Interesting take!

Mathias Schindler [PersonRank 10]

17 years ago #

It's now official: Encyclopaedia Britannica is yesterday's news:
http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=britannica+encyclopaedia+%7C+encyclopedia&sa=N

(this was the last place I was expecting to find EBI content on google)

Ionut Alex. Chitu [PersonRank 10]

17 years ago #

News archive search searches across a large collection of historical archives including major newspapers/magazines, news archives and legal archives.

Dan Tobias [PersonRank 6]

17 years ago #

I don't know why they need to keep registering domains like "archivesearchgoogle.com" anyway, given that most of their services end up using logical subdomains and pathnames within their main domain anyway.

Philipp Lenssen [PersonRank 10]

17 years ago #

Dan, maybe they don't want to give a chance to give these away to domain grabbers. The domain squatter could make it look all official but then put their own site on it (including phishing), and that might reflect bad on Google. Then again, people should only "trust" *.google.com in the first place...

Jorg [PersonRank 1]

17 years ago #

very nice.. Who can get the oldest article? Independence day goes back to 1890!

Dan Florio [PersonRank 0]

17 years ago #

Google's new service is the same as Yahoo's premium search product. You can search but you still have to pay....People wont pay. There are services like Congoo.com who provide free access to all those articles and britannica etc.

RC [PersonRank 10]

17 years ago #

this is stupendously awesome, this is a major hit. very neat implementation. yay!!

Tim Finin [PersonRank 1]

17 years ago #

It seems like many of the documents in news archives were scanned poorly and are unusable. I tried entering a query consisting of a random, meaningless four-letter sequence, GFHD, and got eleven results. This isn’t Google’s fault, of course. But, I wonder what fraction of the scanned in content from newspapers and magazines is unusable because of poor quality scanning? For more examples, see http://ebiquity.umbc.edu/blogger/2006/09/06/researching-gfhd-google-can-help/

Stephen [PersonRank 0]

17 years ago #

Can't wait to see them combine this with Google News.

photoactive [PersonRank 10]

17 years ago #

A search for [+the] brings up results going back to 1 September 1754.

How cool is that?

/pd [PersonRank 10]

17 years ago #

I have gone back to time and playing around .. earlist touch point I could achieve was [Edinburgh Advertiser, The (Newspaper) – October 13, 1780 ...]

this was for the term "Mayflower"

Does anyone have a term that can go deeper back in timelines, pls share!!

Philipp Lenssen [PersonRank 10]

17 years ago #

Sometimes whole decades seem to be missing from the timeline? (E.g. in a timeline for the word "gay", which changed its meaning during the 20th century.)

photoactive [PersonRank 10]

17 years ago #

The term "governor" will do it :)

photoactive [PersonRank 10]

17 years ago #

[put at-character here]Philipp, the timeline is the part that seems to need most work. Have you tried "google"? The timeline ends in 1960 . . .

/pd [PersonRank 10]

17 years ago #

Oh.. I betteredd myself w/the term [ "St.Paul"]
  
The Edinburgh Chronicle (Newspaper) – November 3, 1759, Edinburgh ...

photoactive [PersonRank 10]

17 years ago #

The Edinburgh Chronicle seems to go back to September 15, 1759. You can get there for a search on "america". I'm wowed.

/pd [PersonRank 10]

17 years ago #

[put at-character here] Photoactive ... kewl.. you beat me on that round :)-

Shaun Foster [PersonRank 0]

17 years ago #

If you install a netpass into your browser you can access these articles for free. check out http://www.congoo.com

Ionut Alex. Chitu [PersonRank 10]

17 years ago #

I tried that, but it doesn't work with the sources from Google News Archive (for example, Washington Post).

Sohil [PersonRank 10]

17 years ago #

Wow this is fantastic.

India
http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=India&sa=N&lnav=m&scoring=t

Google (Google gives non tech results so I used Google Search)
http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=Google+Search&btnG=Search+Archives&btnG=Search+Archives&scoring=t

TOMHTML [PersonRank 10]

17 years ago #

Hé hé hé
I found it, in May 21, 1986 :
"France narrowly escaped a nuclear disaster as serious as the one at Chernobyl when a nuclear reactor's cooling system failed two years ago and safety backup ... "

You say now that France, like many countries in Europe, was contaminated by Chernobyl's cloud. France government lied to put Frenchies at rest ;-)

Gary Price [PersonRank 10]

17 years ago #

Just for fun.
I think the Timeline search is need of some work. Compare the Google timeline (hey, where are sergey and larry?) to the Microsoft timeline (lots about Bill).
http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=google&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&btnG=Show+Timeline
http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=microsoft&sa=N&lnav=m&scoring=t

To those of you in the U.S. and Canada (I don't have time now to go nation by nation)

How many of you have visited ONLINE what your local library offers for free without having to leave your home or office? 24x7x365. All you need is a library card. In essence, lots of material in Google Archive is free. All you need is a library card and that's free.

Take a look at what the SF Public Library offers for free.
http://www.sfpl.org/sfplonline/dbcategories.htm

or Portland, OR.
http://www.multcolib.org/ref/a2z.html

When database offers more than 57 million full text articles updated daily, archived back many years, and browsable in many ways. For example, you could create your own virtual newsstand. Many articles are full image, in PDF so useful charts and tables are not missed.

More here
http://www.betanews.com/article/Finding_Answers_Beyond_Web_Search/1118246650
and here
http://www.forbes.com/business/free_forbes/2005/0815/056.html?partner=yahoomag.

Yes, even the full text of many O'Reilly, SAMS, McGraw Hill Books. And audiobooks ready (for free to download) onto your MP3 player.

I have plenty to say about Google's new service here. No list of sources and archived dates is one issue.
http://www.resourceshelf.com/2006/09/06/google-launches-news-archive-search/

I also point to examples where the same article is being charged for at Google is free not from a library but from FindArticles or NewspaperArchive.com.

Btw, you'll also notice many articles in Google News Archive from a provider named HighBeam. They've been around for a while.
What makes HighBeam an issue, at least for me, is not that they charge
for an article. But, you need to buy a monthly subscription (about $20/US). Yes, a free seven day trial is available. However, it's up to you the card holder to contact them and cancel the service after seven days.
I've written about this for years but with Google's power you think that they could help bring about a change to this policy.

Yes, Seth, as you said a few week's ago libraries are very poor marketers. You're right. So, I'm just doing what I can to point out that lots of what you have to pay for is available free.

Btw, selling content by a large web engine is nothing new.
First, as noted, Yahoo subscriptions and before that Yahoo sold material via a deal with Northern Light. See:
http://searchenginewatch.com/showPage.html?page=2159111

Northern Light also offered their own pay-per-view service. They even offered a list of publications. Nice.
http://web.archive.org/web/19990427224209/http://www.northernlight.com/docs/specoll_help_overview.html

Like most things Google, we will have to wait and see I think Marissa Mayer said it best in a BusinessWeek article in July.

" Marissa Mayer, estimated that up to 60% to 80% of Google’s products may eventually crash and burn."
   “We anticipate that we’re going to throw out a lot of products,” says Mayer. “But [people] will remember the ones that really matter and the ones that have a lot of user potential.”
Complete BW article:
"So Much Fanfare, So Few Hits" at:
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_28/b3992051.htm

pokemo [PersonRank 10]

17 years ago #

I have a suggestion...

Why not Google news search result page shows the specific keyword link to the news archive search site?

Get this idea from
http://www.newsiness.com/googleyahoonews/?q=wii

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